A shattering moment in America's fall from power

The global financial crisis will see the US falter in the same way the Soviet Union did when the Berlin Wall came down. The era of American dominance is over

Our gaze might be on the markets melting down, but the upheaval we are experiencing is more than a financial crisis, however large. Here is a historic geopolitical shift, in which the balance of power in the world is being altered irrevocably. The era of American global leadership, reaching back to the Second World War, is over.

You can see it in the way America's dominion has slipped away in its own backyard, with Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez taunting and ridiculing the superpower with impunity. Yet the setback of America's standing at the global level is even more striking. With the nationalisation of crucial parts of the financial system, the American free-market creed has self-destructed while countries that retained overall control of markets have been vindicated. In a change as far-reaching in its implications as the fall of the Soviet Union, an entire model of government and the economy has collapsed.

Ever since the end of the Cold War, successive American administrations have lectured other countries on the necessity of sound finance. Indonesia, Thailand, Argentina and several African states endured severe cuts in spending and deep recessions as the price of aid from the International Monetary Fund, which enforced the American orthodoxy. China in particular was hectored relentlessly on the weakness of its banking system. But China's success has been based on its consistent contempt for Western advice and it is not Chinese banks that are currently going bust. How symbolic yesterday that Chinese astronauts take a spacewalk while the US Treasury Secretary is on his knees.

Despite incessantly urging other countries to adopt its way of doing business, America has always had one economic policy for itself and another for the rest of the world. Throughout the years in which the US was punishing countries that departed from fiscal prudence, it was borrowing on a colossal scale to finance tax cuts and fund its over-stretched military commitments. Now, with federal finances critically dependent on continuing large inflows of foreign capital, it will be the countries that spurned the American model of capitalism that will shape America's economic future.

Which version of the bail out of American financial institutions cobbled up by Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson and Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke is finally adopted is less important than what the bail out means for America's position in the world. The populist rant about greedy banks that is being loudly ventilated in Congress is a distraction from the true causes of the crisis. The dire condition of America's financial markets is the result of American banks operating in a free-for-all environment that these same American legislators created. It is America's political class that, by embracing the dangerously simplistic ideology of deregulation, has responsibility for the present mess.

In present circumstances, an unprecedented expansion of government is the only means of averting a market catastrophe. The consequence, however, will be that America will be even more starkly dependent on the world's new rising powers. The federal government is racking up even larger borrowings, which its creditors may rightly fear will never be repaid. It may well be tempted to inflate these debts away in a surge of inflation that would leave foreign investors with hefty losses. In these circumstances, will the governments of countries that buy large quantities of American bonds, China, the Gulf States and Russia, for example, be ready to continue supporting the dollar's role as the world's reserve currency? Or will these countries see this as an opportunity to tilt the balance of economic power further in their favour? Either way, the control of events is no longer in American hands.

The fate of empires is very often sealed by the interaction of war and debt. That was true of the British Empire, whose finances deteriorated from the First World War onwards, and of the Soviet Union. Defeat in Afghanistan and the economic burden of trying to respond to Reagan's technically flawed but politically extremely effective Star Wars programme were vital factors in triggering the Soviet collapse. Despite its insistent exceptionalism, America is no different. The Iraq War and the credit bubble have fatally undermined America's economic primacy. The US will continue to be the world's largest economy for a while longer, but it will be the new rising powers that, once the crisis is over, buy up what remains intact in the wreckage of America's financial system.

There has been a good deal of talk in recent weeks about imminent economic armageddon. In fact, this is far from being the end of capitalism. The frantic scrambling that is going on in Washington marks the passing of only one type of capitalism - the peculiar and highly unstable variety that has existed in America over the last 20 years. This experiment in financial laissez-faire has imploded.While the impact of the collapse will be felt everywhere, the market economies that resisted American-style deregulation will best weather the storm. Britain, which has turned itself into a gigantic hedge fund, but of a kind that lacks the ability to profit from a downturn, is likely to be especially badly hit.

The irony of the post-Cold War period is that the fall of communism was followed by the rise of another utopian ideology. In American and Britain, and to a lesser extent other Western countries, a type of market fundamentalism became the guiding philosophy. The collapse of American power that is underway is the predictable upshot. Like the Soviet collapse, it will have large geopolitical repercussions. An enfeebled economy cannot support America's over-extended military commitments for much longer. Retrenchment is inevitable and it is unlikely to be gradual or well planned.

Meltdowns on the scale we are seeing are not slow-motion events. They are swift and chaotic, with rapidly spreading side-effects. Consider Iraq. The success of the surge, which has been achieved by bribing the Sunnis, while acquiescing in ongoing ethnic cleansing, has produced a condition of relative peace in parts of the country. How long will this last, given that America's current level of expenditure on the war can no longer be sustained?

An American retreat from Iraq will leave Iran the regional victor. How will Saudi Arabia respond? Will military action to forestall Iran acquiring nuclear weapons be less or more likely? China's rulers have so far been silent during the unfolding crisis. Will America's weakness embolden them to assert China's power or will China continue its cautious policy of 'peaceful rise'? At present, none of these questions can be answered with any confidence. What is evident is that power is leaking from the US at an accelerating rate. Georgia showed Russia redrawing the geopolitical map, with America an impotent spectator.

Outside the US, most people have long accepted that the development of new economies that goes with globalisation will undermine America's central position in the world. They imagined that this would be a change in America's comparative standing, taking place incrementally over several decades or generations. Today, that looks an increasingly unrealistic assumption.

Having created the conditions that produced history's biggest bubble, America's political leaders appear unable to grasp the magnitude of the dangers the country now faces. Mired in their rancorous culture wars and squabbling among themselves, they seem oblivious to the fact that American global leadership is fast ebbing away. A new world is coming into being almost unnoticed, where America is only one of several great powers, facing an uncertain future it can no longer shape.

• John Gray is the author of Black Mass: Apocalyptic Religion and the Death of Utopia (Allen Lane)


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  • GreatGrandDad GreatGrandDad

    28 Sep 2008, 1:17AM

    The article only points to the secondary effects that have worked out as a result of the primary cause nearly forty years ago.

    That was when America's consumption of oil equalled its ability to pump oil out of its own land. Instead of reining in its desires to consume and 'living-within-its-means', the American nation started importing oil. From that fundamental mistake, all else has followed.

    Nemesis has a habit of entering after hubris.

  • savo47 savo47

    28 Sep 2008, 1:20AM

    This is not the end of USA dominance, but this is the end of era of Stupid Globalization.
    Every country has its own rules, qualities and possibilities to develop, and should fit into the world system, but only as an individual state not as a 'territory and numbers'.
    Very soon we will see the end of stupid era of 'EU Unification'.
    Only banana-countries, with very lazy governments and business people, are selling their energy systems, water, airports, railways and other infrastructure to foreign companies.
    Smart countries, like France, Germany and Norway, do not think about selling its infrastructure to foreign companies but they also keep developing their manufacturing.

  • Parand Parand

    28 Sep 2008, 1:35AM

    The global financial crisis will see the US falter in the same way the Soviet Union did when the Berlin Wall came down. The era of American dominance is over

    I agree...., The era of American Dominance is over, as I and the likes of me, have said it in the past but.............

    Am I missing a point here? Have I not followed the news in the last few days or few weeks?!
    What is this Global, Global and Global nonesense?
    This is NOT a global crisis.

    What is happening in other European countries like Germany, France, Spain, Italy and so on.....? NOTHING.

    What is happening to the emerging markets like, China and India? NOTHING.

    What is happening in Middle Eastern countries? NOTHING.

    This is NOT a GLOBAL crisis.
    This crisis....., this financial meltdown, has happened to the two countries, ie America and Britain who are heavily involved and consumed in two futile wars and corruption, and have used the taxpayer's money to subsidize for the wars and they want MORE!

    This is not a global problem, or maybe , just maybe , the new definition of GLOBE is America and Britain!!

  • biba100mejico biba100mejico

    28 Sep 2008, 1:36AM

    The other day there was an article in the WSJ (ok .... wall street journal) about the decline of US influence due to this crisis.

    Sometime last week there was an article in the NYT (c'mon you know that one) about the decline of the influence of US court decisions of the decisions of other courts around the world. Countries that once admired US Supreme court decisions now look to Indian, Canadian or the EU courts.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/18/us/18legal.html?scp=1&sq=Supreme%20Court%92s%20Global%20Influence%20Is%20Waning&st=cse

    Also last week an article in the Guardian about the "Haemorrhaging of western influence at UN wrecks attempts to push human rights agenda".
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/18/unitednations.china

    Western influence not just US influence ....

    I agree with the writer's general premise but I would add to it the EU's loss of influence too.

    This is only to be expected as other nations grow more economically, culturally and politically secure.

    One steep downside is that the UN in general will become much less effective(!) in all areas and many countries will try to push their own trade and political agendas unilaterally.

    This means that places like Myanmar and people like pro-democracy leader Aung San Suu Kyi are well and truly screwed .. even more than the last 19 years.
    http://www.mysinchew.com/node/16699

    Hold on to your hats and conscience ...... it's going to be a rough ride.

    Of course it's all very interesting historically .. I don't think Obama will make much of a difference with the US debt and millions of selfish boomers around his neck and his "academic" character ... McCain /Palin wouldn't do much more than speed up the decline...... a little .. unless Pres. Palin decided to launch an invasion of Russia across the Bering straights to grab their oil and gas??

  • Nihon Nihon

    28 Sep 2008, 1:49AM

    When Stalinism fell we heard from the capitalist media about the collapse of communism. If these economic problems were happening in China, we would be hearing about the horrors of communism. But in the capitalist media, we are not hearing about the horrors and failures of capitalism

  • bobdoney bobdoney

    28 Sep 2008, 1:58AM

    Dear oh dear oh dear. So it's the end of American global dominance. Russia, China and who else? Oh yes, Iran and Venezuela - these are the coming powers. What a load of bollocks! The very next state which is going into meltdown is China. Inflation is letting rip, the stockmarket and housing market are in freefall. Its banks are stuffed with bad lending. Its rivers and lakes are poisoned, its peoples mutinous. Its economic growth has been based on exports which the rest of world is about to stop buying. Their military/industrial complex is about to implode. Who owns the largest slice of Chinese industry? The army.

    And apart from the imminent economic collapse of China I'll lay you a sidebet. One nation, one economy will emerge from the present turmoil fitter, harder and more determined than ever, because of the industry, inventiveness and sheer bloody determination of its people. Why yes, it's the good ole US of A. As the bookmakers say, they have form. The 21st century, like the 19th and the 20th, will be the American century.

  • NRawles NRawles

    28 Sep 2008, 1:59AM

    In a change as far-reaching in its implications as the fall of the Soviet Union, an entire model of government and the economy has collapsed.

    I've been waiting for someone to make this observation. Thank you, John Gray, for seeing what others either cannot see or are too proud to admit.

    I'll never forget the face of George H.W. Bush when he spoke on the fall of the Berlin Wall. His words were ones of triumph, while his look was one of sheer panic. If the Soviet system can fail, will the same thing happen to us?

    If it weren't all so sad and criminal, there might be something satisfying about George W. Bush presiding over the wreckage. Ronald Reagan, Big Bill Clinton, the Bushes, Cheney, Wolfie, McCain, Enron, Exxon/Mobil, Union Carbide, all the robber barons of Wall Street AND Main Street enjoyed a giddy run on the world markets made possible by the fall of the USSR. Didn't they realize that once the red scare was over, they'd be blamed for the widening inequalities?

    When the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that corporations had the standing of individuals, they gave carte blanc to global corporate greed. The folks who brought us sub-prime mortgages are the same folks who brought us SUVs, patents on seeds, climate change, and the resurgence of global slavery.

    That the United States has been the standard bearer for these untenable practices is a source of shame for many of its citizens. Now that the age of U.S. hegemony is said to be over, what other countries will pick up the flag of unbridled expansion? Will there finally be a limit? Or will the filthy rich (read the wealthy wicked?) escape to Mars, leaving the rest of us to suffer their sins?

  • sleat sleat

    28 Sep 2008, 2:01AM

    Its not as simple as that. Firstly, there is no way America can ever repay its debts, and if the holders of Treasury Bonds were to try to recall their loans, the bond market would collapse and their holdings would be worthless. So, because those debts cannot be repaid, they in a real sense, do not exist. However because China and the other big creditors know this, they are much more likely now to purchase American assets rather than fund a government that has very little control over its own financial future.

    But, China and all of the emerging economies are dependent on the US consumer market. Not only is it huge, but it is utterly undiscriminating. Americans will buy anything, even things that have no purpose. China regards a large part of its Treasury Bill holdings as the unrecoverable cost of keeping the American consumer market intact.

    Now, the emerging economies cannot afford a sudden collapse in that market. They have to allow totally bankrupt consumers to continue to get access to credit so that they can buy in the frenzied and crazed fashion that exists nowhere outside America. Exactly how this will be achieved is not entirely clear, but China and the others will have to accommodate American credit while they diversify their markets. This diversification is already under way, of course. While the US couldnt see what was coming, China could and did. One way or another, it will spur an uncontrollable wave of inflation which will take many Americans out. Neither the US Government nor the Chinese will care about that. The greedy go to the wall, and the stupid and the greedy go even quicker.

    The poor in America and elsewhere will be the true victims, and it will be ugly. The crooks who spurred this financial melt-down will take billions in personal wealth with them to their tax havens. US corporations have long since stopped being American. They will happily transfer from New York to Dubai or Mumbai, or Shanghai. The exodus is already under way. And because American insfrastructure is now among the weakest in the OECD, foreign investors will cease operating plants in the US as soon as it is clear that the US market is drying up.

    So, it will be a slow change, because the merging world cannot afford and will not permit a rapid one. America's main problem is that although it is defeated all the time, it refuses to accept that reality. In the American psyche, winning, at any expense, even the brains of children splattered against the wall, is all that matters. Meantime, Americans will continue strutting and threatening to kick butt, waving their pathetic little flags. So sad !

  • bobdoney bobdoney

    28 Sep 2008, 2:03AM

    Parand:

    What is happening in other European countries like Germany, France, Spain, Italy and so on.....? NOTHING. What is happening to the emerging markets like, China and India? NOTHING. What is happening in Middle Eastern countries? NOTHING. This is NOT a GLOBAL crisis.

    Good stuff, Parand. Don't let the inconvenient facts get in the way of your argument.

  • wayneji wayneji

    28 Sep 2008, 2:11AM

    Excellent article.
    I can imagine a scenario when the people in the U.S become so disgruntled that there will be rioting in the streets and as gun ownership is so widespread turn into localised armed rebellion. 50 years or so down the line maybe the breakup of the U.S into two opposing ideologies broadly along the blue/red divisions currently in place. The increase in Hispanic population may even drive some states into Mexico and immigration will be in the opposite direction with Mexico emerging as an economic power.Russia may make an offer for Alaska.Who knows????

  • ButHowAbout ButHowAbout

    28 Sep 2008, 2:16AM

    While the impact of the collapse will be felt everywhere, the market economies that resisted American-style deregulation will best weather the storm. Britain, which has turned itself into a gigantic hedge fund, but of a kind that lacks the ability to profit from a downturn, is likely to be especially badly hit.

    That's too dismal-science for me. Could somebody explain what the gentleman means with his hedges? Whoever is at the helm of Airstrip One ought to steer a bit more towards Brussels EU and edge away from Crawford TX, I suppose, but surely there is no immediate danger of foundering.

    As for "a historic geopolitical shift, in which the balance of power in the world is being altered irrevocably," I doubt there was ever any such balance to begin with, only a very lopsided Yank Ascendancy after 1945 that no serious analyst ever took to be permanent. Even this analyst adds "Outside the US, most people have long accepted that the development of new economies that goes with globalisation will undermine America's central position in the world," which sounds much more reasonable.

    Mr. Gray must be a lover of drama who would rather watch the <I>Heimatland Gottes</I> go out with a bang than a whimper. History and geopolitics are not likely to gratify his taste, though.

    Happy days.

  • ophiochos ophiochos

    28 Sep 2008, 2:17AM

    so what happened to 'the end of history' then? Can we have history again now?
    It is the loss of credibility that is the greatest change: the institutions were always beyond the grasp of most. And the wars ARE the right thing to mention. Britain and the US have the distinction of *once having given up torture*, resuming it. So the lectures on human rights are also now in-credible. Similar errors of judgement have led to this economic crisis.

    Once the credibility has evaporated or been squandered, no-one really cares. The US (and Britain) would have to do something truly remarkable over a sustained period of time (probably decades) to regain the credibility they squandered from the time of Thatcher and Reagan in every way imaginable. Don't seem very likely, does it? Not when we elect people like Boris Johnson to important offices because he was funny on HIGNFY.

  • Nihon Nihon

    28 Sep 2008, 2:18AM

    When the berlin wall fell, though it was never socialist and was Stalinism, we heard from the capitalist media about the collapse of communism. Ordinary people are being hit hard by this credit crunch. It was caused by house buying investments and irresponsible commodity speculation. This is a crisis of capitalism. Infact, some speculators have done alright out of this. One BBC report highlighted how high food prices are causing starvation in some counries. Even in the UK this winter, high fuel prices will mean some people will have to make the decision whether they want to eat or keep warm. You have juast given a report on how we will be hit by high food prices.

    If this had been happening in China, we would be hearing from the capitalist media how this is the horrors of communism. Yet we are not hearing how this is a crisis of capitalism. There is absolutely no criticism of capitalism and the free market in the capitalist media including the BBC, just criticism of the banks and the city. Clearly, capitalism isn't working. Where are the reports on the horrors of capitalism?

    100 FTSE chief executives: 37% pay rise
    Centrica profits for 1st 6 months of this year: £992 million.
    Centrica boss annual salary: £1 million

    Average pay increase: 3.5% (2% for government workers)
    Centrica fuel bill rise: 35%

  • StrifeZ StrifeZ

    28 Sep 2008, 2:18AM

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  • StrifeZ StrifeZ

    28 Sep 2008, 2:28AM

    Parand convieniently leaves out the fact the Russian stockmarket has dived by 57%, the Chinese have had to stop fiscal reform and opening, and foreign investment in the US has PICKED UP while emerging market investment has fallen drastically.

    But as ever, with anything involving American primacy and the declinist-cheerleading-circlejerk that comes up whenever this topic is raised, it is, ultimately, a fact free debate.

    Hell, like 4 days ago you had another columnist at CiF write how this crisis only illustrates how more dependent than ever the world is on US leadership, because Paulson illustrated that he (and America) could act fast and decisively, whereas other institutions could not.

    Do you see the disconnect?

    Of course not. Because as with everything involving America at CiF, people here, especially Europeans, see what they want. They want to see the US as a gun toting, backwards, evolution denying, global warming denying Roman empire on the brink of collapse. Why? Who knows. Philosophy? Personal vindictiveness? Jealousy? Maybe it all comes back to what to far too many people is the most important problem in the world - the stupid Israeli and Palestinian "crisis".

    You know, as an American, what I'm looking forward to? A new President, whoever it is. New frontiers of science and technology . New infrastructure. A revived space program. Starting a family of my own.

    Being an American is still the greatest gift to be born into. I'm lucky to be who and what I am, and where I'm from.

    As long as most Americans think like that, and they do, then decline is an academic topic, not a reality.

    From the poltiical speeches with record numbers of viewers, to historic debates, predicted records for voter turn outs, and heck, the annual 4th of July celebrations, being American still means a tremendous amounts to a lot of people.

    So decline? The every day American, despite economic hardship, is having nothing of it.

  • sleat sleat

    28 Sep 2008, 2:31AM

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  • MuffledCry MuffledCry

    28 Sep 2008, 2:36AM

    I think America will slide into full on Fascism now.

    The Project for a New American Century failed.

    So where does that leave us?

    What can our political parties do or say when they are completely wedded to the Thatcher/Regan new world order?

    The only option for these people is to shift to National Socialism (which is NOT Socialism, of course)

    If you think that the people with all the power are going to let it go easily you are making a big mistake.

    The Tories will give us a glimpse of the next stage on the road next week.

    Mark my words!

  • stuka77 stuka77

    28 Sep 2008, 2:44AM

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  • Infusoria Infusoria

    28 Sep 2008, 2:48AM

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  • StrifeZ StrifeZ

    28 Sep 2008, 2:49AM

    You know what the most absurd part of this is? It is entirely delusionatory. The US isn't any poorer than it was 8 years ago. In fact, its richer. Both GDP and GDP-per capita has grown at rates that Europe envies. The gap between American science/technology and the rest of the world, according to a study this year, has increased (to the US's advantage), not narrowed. And the US military, despite years of fighting on the other side of the planet, is as potent as it has ever been, and at the start of a 5 year, $100 billion "reset program".

    So sure, the financial sector is a disaster, and Paulson wanted to act decisively to prevent it from affecting money markets and people's savings. Completely legitimate reasons for an intervention.

    But far too often, the economy, this immense beast which far too many people trivialize to be as simple as a football score (Dow down 320 = Manchester United blown out 5-0). Some parts are thriving, others are rotten to the core.

    So I'm really wondering, whats it going to take to snap you people back in reality? The Dow to hit record highs? Hell it did that just a few months ago, and the declinist talk was still going on. Maybe another unilateral invasion where we conquer a country in 21 days and kill its leaders? I'll never forget that "unipolar moment".... people acted like the US suddenly pulled that capability out of its ass, but it's had it for many, many years (and still does). What people called Shock and Awe was utterly by the numbers by my standards. But boy, were people surprised.

    Maybe it'll take a fancy new invention. The US of course, created and shared the internet... it really didn't have to (and may not next time, judging by how Al Qaeda and countries like China have abused it), but who knows.

    In short, a lot of this declinist stuff is a gigantic circular argument. People already come into the debate wanting the US to be decline. Never mind major sectors of the economy are strong and will be strong again. Never mind the US military, battle hardened after 8 years of war, is in the midst of its biggest transformation since the 1940s, and is gaining substantial offensive power from it. Nevermind that in just the last 8 years, the United States has sequenced the human genome, mass produced fiber optics, developed industrial methods of producing carbon nanotubes, built a major space station, and has seen major new advances in computing. Google, which is celebrating its 10th anniversary is is so important to the world today it has become a verb, is after all, an American corporation.

    These are not the indicators of a country in decline. No nation is perfect. America has many, many flaws, and much it must do to correct them (and questionable leadership ability to do it). But the people within America, the actual Americans, are in the midst of making historic leaps ahead and advances in every sector.

    So cheerlead decline if you wan't. If it makes you feel better about yourselves. I'm not sure why you would. It is only hurting yourselves.

  • StrifeZ StrifeZ

    28 Sep 2008, 2:54AM

    MuffledCry

    Fascism?

    Have you even been to America?

    Witness the great failure of the first internet, that hopefully the second one will correct: the non-accountable guise of anonymnity. You can say whatever you want, no matter how insane and insulting it is, because ultimately, no one knows who you really are or what you really stand for.

    Honestly, I doubt you even know what PNAC is, or read anything they ever wrote. It's just like the legion of people at CiF who call something "Orwellian", when it is clear they haven't read anything by George Orwell outside of wikipedia.

  • Infusoria Infusoria

    28 Sep 2008, 3:03AM

    StrifeZ,
    I dont think we want USA to decline. You certainly have got many things to be proud of. But you just behave very badly on international level as a country, not necessarily as individuals. So a bit of moderation of your power wouldn't hurt you or anybody else.

  • hairything hairything

    28 Sep 2008, 3:04AM

    StrifeZ:

    If you want people to start taking you seriously, please stop making up words. Actually, strike that. It's highly entertaining, and people aren't going to take you seriously anyway Mr Sovereign Wealth Fund, so do carry on.

  • StrifeZ StrifeZ

    28 Sep 2008, 3:14AM

    Infusoria

    Respectfully, I just think you don't get it.

    The United States does not, and will never, subscribe to the "we're all in this together and responsible for each other" internationalist philosophy. I mean, heck, that debate has never been brought to any sort of real resolution between the 50 States over 230 years, never mind between the US and other countries. If there was domestic resolution, we'd either have universal healthcare, or totally forswear it, rather than a patchworked system.

    The point of the matter is, America has never viewed itself as "one of the members of the international community". Sure, we like to lead, and like to dictate terms, but we'll always put ourselves first. Why? Because we're naturally suspicious of those outside our borders, and frankly, don't want want you have to offer as societies infecting ours. Just a couple of years ago, the US had a defacto national moratorium on capital punishment... now it is back full swing. How decidedly un-European.

    You think we behave badly? Well thats your right, but lets get one thing perfectly straight. You percieve us behaving badly because you think that we somehow owe you what would be defined as "good behavior".

    I counter, on the other hand, that the US will behave as we need to behave to get what we want, and think we're entitled to. Our sovereign rights, rights we will never sign over, or ultimately forswear to be "better" international players.

    Now I'm sorry if that is a disapointment to you, but again, respectfully, the US will never be the internationalist nation that is a perfectly fair player on the world stage. It is not in our character to be.

  • StrifeZ StrifeZ

    28 Sep 2008, 3:16AM

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  • Infusoria Infusoria

    28 Sep 2008, 3:25AM

    Now I'm sorry if that is a disapointment to you, but again, respectfully, the US will never be the internationalist nation that is a perfectly fair player on the world stage. It is not in our character to be.

    I understand you perfectly and not disappointed. But if you fail to behave much better, I'm afraid your country will cease to exist. Because patience of other countries with the US is running thin now. Deal with it or face the consequences - choice is yours of course.

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    28 Sep 2008, 3:30AM

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  • Dravazed Dravazed

    28 Sep 2008, 3:32AM

    As one who became active in the Left before he could vote, while the imperialist war against the Vietnamese was still ramping up, I can only hope that the present unraveling of American hegemony is a democratic opportunity. It's not a sure thing; this sort of crisis is both an opportunity and a danger. We've had decades of increasing limits on democratic expression and the utter distortion of our electoral system by truckloads of corporate cash. Much of the American electorate has become passive, cynical, and accordingly detached from the life of the nation. Whether the current crisis jolts them into action or merely acts as a confirmatory stamp upon their existing attitudes, is one important question yet to be answered.

    The United States is merely a storefront for multinational corporations: a watering hole, a link in a chain, a place to pay off the players who will provide mercenaries, weapons, and subversion wherever corporate plans mandate. We long ago lost effective control over our own electoral process, to the point where there is blatant tampering and a Supreme Court that allows it to go on. The mass media are privately owned and tremendously expensive...and on top of that, when their owners don't like the message, they simply disallow advertisements.

    This is the core struggle that has always been the work of progressives: to reclaim and restore democracy. There is no "good king" who can do this by fiat, over the heads of the commoners, the masses, the people (call them what you will). The American empire must shrink, and crucial in that is the abandonment of military bases all over the world. This empire has been the cause of most of the enmity we encounter in the world--not a protection against it. We kill X number of people every day, reporting them (if at all) as "militants" or whatever dismissive term du jour comes out, while the "collateral damage" in the form of neighbors, relatives, and citizens of the killing fields where Hellfire missiles bring American-style democracy, learn to hate us.

    Having lived in what the (real) Left here has long called "the Belly of the Beast," I long for and hope that this coming period does in fact reign in the American war of terror...for that is what it has long been--not a war against terror, but its routine practice. It is not an accident that a wave of Left governments have arisen throughout Latin America, for it is a self-protective response. It has been said that you can tell a lot about a country by looking at its neighbors (this used to be said in sneering tones about the East Bloc). Well, look at the Latin countries, at Haiti, and you will see that after decades, the great mass of people there are still dirt-poor peasants. The North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) is a major reason for this, and for the wave of illegal immigrants in the US. Having removed protections from market predation by multinationals in their own countries, the peasants there cannot sell their own produce. What are they to do? They go elsewhere...and "elsewhere" usually means the US. We, the corporate United States, has created this situation, and Bill Clinton and the rest of the globalizers are the champions who carried out the corporate agenda.

    All this has to be changed, and rolled back. Maybe--just maybe--now there is a chance that a broad sector of Americans can have enough critical awareness to see that there is something fundamentally wrong with Wall Street. Greed is not the engine of a good society, but instead is the breakfast of the sociopathic liars we have come to call "leaders."

    All the struggles I have seen in my life--civil rights, anti-imperialism, economic justice, feminism, ecological activism--aim for power to the people. That's what we need, and it won't be given gladly or without struggle...and sacrifice. But there really is no acceptable alternative.

  • gunnison gunnison

    28 Sep 2008, 3:42AM

    The United States does not, and will never, subscribe to the "we're all in this together and responsible for each other" internationalist philosophy.

    I dunno strife, never is a long time. Lot's of changes in my lifetime, and yours too, wouldn't you say?
    We're on a ride now where the future is increasingly shaped by force of historic circumstance, and less by the outcome of planning.
    Just my guess, of course.

  • Arkasha Arkasha

    28 Sep 2008, 4:20AM

    And the US military, despite years of fighting on the other side of the planet, is as potent as it has ever been, and at the start of a 5 year, $100 billion "reset program".

    This of course would explain the dropping induction requirements. Used to be nobody with a record would be accepted in the military; not true anymore, as the increasingly desperate armed forces keep reducing the minimums needed to be recruited.

    the United States has sequenced the human genome, mass produced fiber optics, developed industrial methods of producing carbon nanotubes, built a major space station, and has seen major new advances in computing.

    Oh, FFS.

    First, the sequencing was an INTERNATIONAL project; geneticists from China, the UK, Japan, France and Germany as well as the US were part of it.

    Second, fiber optics were invented by a British-American team, and actually perfected by a German.

    Third, in case you can read, look up the space station - it's called the INTERNATIONAL space station. It's a joint effort with the US, Japan, Russia, Canada, and 11 European countries as participants.

    This is pathetic - inventing history just to try and brag.

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  • iruka iruka

    28 Sep 2008, 4:31AM

    bobdoney: One nation, one economy will emerge from the present turmoil fitter, harder and more determined than ever, because of the industry, inventiveness and sheer bloody determination of its people.

    Is that the same American economy that sits on top of the worst-educated population in the OECD, and that survives by importing boffins it will soon be unable to afford...the same American economy that has forgotten how to manufacture anything of any quality...the same American economy that has survived for the last 20 years on top of a series of financial bubbles...?

    But I'm not sure it was specifically financial deregulation that is the cause of the spectacular fall we are about to witness- but rather the loss of manufacturing capability, the general decline, moral and intellectual, of the American population, and the wilful dependence on the mystical power of the US dollar itself and the empire intertwined with it. And aren't these all consequences of a surrender of authority to capital that goes well beyond the deregulation of the financial sector? The financial sector is delivering the final blow only because, as in Britain, it has become overwhelmingly dominant in an economy that doesn't do much else. It took Korea decades to figure out how to make a television as well as the Japanese. It sure won't take nearly as long for the money keeping America and Britain afloat to drift elsewhere.

    I suspect that cooperation, decency and common sense will count for more in the decades to come than 'industry, inventiveness and sheer bloody determination' . And don't these last-mentioned represent, in any case, a pretty tiresome and in fact downright degenerate set of values upon which base a civilisation...civilisation being, as many Americans seem to have forgotten (or perhaps they've just never been told) both the precondition and the point of having an 'economy'. It's not just about the cheap gas!!

  • TheCharlatone TheCharlatone

    28 Sep 2008, 4:34AM

    Has there ever been a worse prez than Bush (or Cheney if you believe the rumours)?

    A no nothing at the helm of bonkers ideologues, totally incapable of making any good decisions, and way over his head on almost every issue that affects America. So useless you elected him twice.

    Good luck America. I'm away to learn Mandarin and buy statues of Mao. Because your economy is offically tanked; I hope you don't take everyone down with you.

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