Asomugha got the money, not the results
By Steve Corkran
Sunday, November 13th, 2011 at 6:49 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders returned 10 starters from last year’s defense. The one who got away, cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, was regarded as one of the league’s best players, certainly one of the top two cornerbacks.
Through nine games, the Raiders are 5-4, matching the best record they achieved through nine games during Asomugha’s eight seasons with the Raiders. The Eagles, with Asomugha, are 3-6 and headed toward a complete meltdown.
Who saw this coming? Not Asomugha, for sure. Yet, reading his words after every mounting Eagles loss reminds me of the seemingly weekly interviews I conducted with Asomugha, most times on the heels of a Raiders loss.
Time and again, he talked about his burning desire to win, how things needed to change, how he remained hopeful of being part of a turnaround.
After eight seasons, he opted to take the money, run and try his hand elsewhere, in much the way cornerback Charles Woodson did when he signed with the Green Bay Packers. Perhaps it’s not a coincidence that Asomugha left right after Woodson won a Super Bowl ring with the Packers last season.
The Raiders were criticized for signing Stanford Routt to a three-year contract that guarantees him $20 million over the first two seasons, and for doing so with an eye toward letting Asomugha walk without making him an offer of any kind.
Who could have guessed that Routt would play as well as Asomugha, and the Raiders would be better off without Asomugha? If you answered “yes,” get in that short line over there.
Several Raiders said point blank that, there isn’t any way to replace a player of Asomugha’s caliber. The key is, getting the 11 players who are here to play just a little bit better. That appears to be what’s happening.
Meanwhile, I can picture Asomugha in the locker room after the Eagles 21-17 loss to the Arizona Cardinals today, composing himself, looking bewildered, and saying many of the same things I heard from him the past eight years.
If nothing else, it just goes to show how no one player can play well enough or will his team to victory. The team is bigger than the player, with few exceptions.
It’s a hard lesson for some players to learn. But at least Asomugha can rest comfortably on the mountain of money he received for his troubles.
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November 13th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
did you order the codeblack? nnamdi didn’t!
November 13th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Bottom of the 2nd
NE 6
NY 2
November 13th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Obviously
November 13th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
Asomugha left to play for less money than he made last year. Maybe he was the factor holding the team back.
November 13th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
Routt at Nnamdi’s level…beer gogles mate. Routt does not know they plays half the time, he gives up huge plays that are not even credited to him because he is so far away from the receiver.
Routt can play man to man, gets called for PI as often as any DB in the league and is not capable of learning a playbook.
November 13th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
Paying elite QB money for a guy that can only cover 1 wr is pretty stupid.
November 13th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
I think that that state of the division is so bad that if we go into the last two games with a 7-7 record we will be in controll of our own destiny. All four teams face tough schedules the rest of the way, but I think KC’s looks the worst, and our probably looks the least tough. We seam to play really well as underdogs and play with our heads shoved up somewhere as favorites. The players need to realize that every team they play is an NFL team and if you don’t go in there and fight and scrap, they are going to beat you.
November 13th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
If he could cover two wr’s at once, that would really be something.
November 13th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Nnamdi doesn’t play here anymore.
This is about the Raiders defense playing at a consistently high level for the rest of the season.
If they do that…Raiders go to the playoffs.
If they slip up……..
November 13th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Maybe he could talk two wr’s into standing next to each other, then he could cover both of them.
November 13th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Fck Nnamdi. He’s not a Raider anymore….moving on.
November 13th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Nnambdi is dead to me. Dvd and Checkwa are both better than Nambdi was as a rookie.
November 13th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
First Place!
November 13th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
We have got to move beyond Nnamdi and JaMarcus and focus on the Vikings, or we could wind up like the Niners. What? Wait a minute. We need to keep winning, ’nuff said.
November 13th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Don’t take the viking lightly or we will end up like we did against denver and kc.
November 13th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
raiderkoolaid Says:
November 13th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Don’t take the viking lightly or we will end up like we did against denver and kc
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This is what I am concerned about.
Our defense has not been CONSISTENT this year. Performance in one week doesn’t seem to translate to the next.
They have to keep playing with the same sense of urgency they did in San Diego
November 13th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
We have the worst defense in the AFC West.
Hopefully one day it will improve.
November 13th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
Yeah point well taken but my response to this article is:
UNLESS THAT PLAYER IS RAY LEWIS, ED REED OR PATRICK WILLIS.
These individual do make everyone around them much better on defense. Aso never did that. He’s not a vocal field general like these guys I just mentioned. And I think those guys are better at their position than Aso is at his.
November 13th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
speaking of the uneven performance of our defense I think this defense plays well the week after they’re humiliated. Which tells me Raiders defense plays when they want to play. And when they don’t want to play their best they just cruise to save their bodies for that speacial contract year.
During contract year the effort is 100%.
During non contract years the effort is adjusted down based on the humiliation level from previous week and the level of the opponents.
November 13th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
any way,
Chekwa & DVD look to be far and away superior too last years draft picks and now unemployed Walter Mcfadden and Jeremy Ware
November 13th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
I really hope the Pats win tonight. The Jets need to be pi$$ed when they face Tebow.
November 13th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
One good thing is that the Vikings play on Monday night this week. Teams that play on Monday night usually don’t do as well the following Sunday.
November 13th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
Kirk Says:
November 13th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
We have the worst defense in the AFC West.
Hopefully one day it will improve.
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I disagree, well sort of. We have the capability to dominate games. It stems from the front 7 and when they are on, they are as good as anyone in the league. But they need to play consistent ball. Something we haven’t seen.
November 13th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
#21 can eat my sh!t.
He was overrated as he could be. If he took a pay cut I would of welcomed him back.
Adios to you and your brohawk!
November 13th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
@23
correct, we have all the telant in the world on D… Just about putting it all together consistantly
November 13th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
I still wish Nnamdi was in Silver and Black just like Charles Woodson. The only thing, I don’t think Woodson acknowledges my Raiders anymore because he’s too high and mighty with his SB win. lol
November 13th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
I do not believe Routt is playing at quite the level Aso was when he donned the S&B. Aso did not give up TD’s…period. That being said Routt is an above average coverage guy that has played well this year. He just needs to get some ball skills. Grab the ball when its in the air Stanford!
Also I do enjoy that the Eagle are 3-6. Wrong choice for a winner Nnamdi.
One Nation Baby…
November 13th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
November 13th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
I wonder if Aso is glad he went to a contender.
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LOL! Steve searching the post for ideas to write about.
November 13th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
Nnamdi did gat an INT. today. The Eagles fans are cruel as the dickens too. Thanks for the article Steve. Good looking out.
November 13th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
i still rock my 24 woodson jersey..
November 13th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Morilla Says:
November 13th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
I really hope the Pats win tonight. The Jets need to be pi$$ed when they face Tebow
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Either way, the Jets will eat Tebow for lunch.
November 13th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
Oops. correction-typo error. Nnamdi did get an INT. today.
November 13th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
Sup Mamba?
November 13th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
Last I heard Al never made him an offer so he had to look elsewhere. It’s hard to accept, but Al stiffarmed Nnamdi out of Oakland.
November 13th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
Steve,
WTH are you talking about? Nnamdi never got an offer from Al Davis, so how can he left for more money?
Also, Routt gave up at least 4 TDs ytd with 3 in 3 consecutive games. No I’d rather have Nnamdi than that dude #26 who doesnt turn his head around when the ball is on its way. How many penalties have #26 incurred this year?
I’ll take Nnamdi straight up over Routt any day of the week.
November 13th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
T.Y.H.R.
Turn Your Head Routt.
November 13th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
Wassup Goldie, ya good
November 13th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
we do get alot holding calls with stanford an CJ..infact CJ is fricken terrible..
November 13th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
“Man, Nnamdi brought this siht over here.”
Sound coming from two Eagles sitting in the corner of the locker room.
November 13th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Steve, any news on McFadden…Ford?
November 13th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
I think of Aso, driving home from the game today and KNOWING the “dream team” he bolted the Raiders for has bascially NO CHANCE to even make the playoffs this year.
3-6.
EAT IT.
November 13th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
November 13th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
Steve,
WTH are you talking about? Nnamdi never got an offer from Al Davis, so how can he left for more money?
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No kidding, Steve knows what the score is. Jerry even wrote an article about the whole ordeal.
November 13th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
As far as ASO not getting an offer from Al, I think if he had gone to him and told him he wanted to be a Raider they could’ve worked something out.
He gets to look in the paper and see the Raiders are in first and he could’ve been a part of it.
Raiders might not have a great record but it’s better than his team.
November 13th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Even if Philly wins out 10-6 doesn’t make the playoffs..I don’t think.
November 13th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
There is no doubt in my mind that if Al made him a comparable offer (which was completely doable) Nnamdi would have stayed. Nnamdi is a stand up guy and wanted to remain a Raider.
November 13th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
Who can we ship off to the Eagles? Haha
November 13th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
The whole thing started with Routts new contract. The writing was on the wall. Al could have sat him down and said ” look, I know you didn’t fulfill the stipulations of your last contract but I can’t afford to pay you what I have been. How about taking a little less money.”
He would have stayed.
November 13th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
Great opportunity next week, if they don’t blow it. Chargers, Chiefs, and Broncos should all lose next week. Could have a two game lead.
November 13th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Philly couldn’t even beat the Colts right now. Vick and Nnamdi are losers, and Andy Reid is getting fired.
This team needs to focus on Minnesota now. They are better than their record, and I hate dome games. We need to go in there and destroy them in the 1st half!
November 13th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
I’m waiting for one of these writer/analysts to have enough balls to say the truth about what the Colts are doing.
I said since week 3 that they are tanking the season to get Andrew Luck.
The media tries to protect them by writing articles and mentioning “Should the Colts trade Manning to get Luck?” What kind of crock is that? They are six more games away from having Luck and Manning.
Manning plays two more years, grooms Luck, and the Colts are set at QB for the next 15 or so years.
November 13th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
I still think Luck is a Ryan Leaf (or JR) waiting to happen.
November 13th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
The Colties didn’t do much with Manning, more of the same w Luck.
November 13th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
49.beach Says:
November 13th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Philly couldn’t even beat the Colts right now. Vick and Nnamdi are losers, and Andy Reid is getting fired.
This team needs to focus on Minnesota now. They are better than their record, and I hate dome games. We need to go in there and destroy them in the 1st half!
49.beach Says:
November 13th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Philly couldn’t even beat the Colts right now. Vick and Nnamdi are losers, and Andy Reid is getting fired.
This team needs to focus on Minnesota now. They are better than their record, and I hate dome games. We need to go in there and destroy them in the 1st half!
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I’m excited as hell that this game is on the road under a dome. Great conditions, so our speed can be a factor. And this team really seems to play better on the road the last few years. The record may or may not reflect it, but I think the team, like a lot of other teams, loves the challenge of playing on the road and seems to be more focused. I wish we could travel for the rest of the season.
November 13th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
I agree that Nnamdi didn’t want to b here. He listened to CWood nd left. If he puts his pride aside, goes to AL nd say Mr. Davis I want to stay. No way Al doesn’t offer him a contract. Al loved that type of loyalty. Nnamdi should thank CWood
November 13th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
I will admit without Nnamdi, miller, gallery, nd Howard I thought the worst, Big Al gets the last laugh. And the best is yet 2 come. Thanks Mr. Davis
November 13th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
Yep, I’m good Mamba. Blessings to ya.
November 13th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
didnt watch much football today. But I am thankful KC is now the joke of the week and the Raiders are riding high after beating SD. If we thought the QB option was bad for us, how in the world did KC allow only 2 completions and still lost? Wow.
November 13th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
MistaBrown Says:
November 13th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
#21 can eat my sh!t.
He was overrated as he could be.
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You are a moron. A first class moron. STFU.
November 13th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
I was always of the opinion that Nnamdi was over rated. And over paid as well as over hyped. He had a reputation of no one wanting to throw his way. He got that rep because no one bothered to throw his way….so his rep was got him where he is today. Not on his ability.
November 13th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
Nnamdi would be a huge upgrade over the likes of Chris Johnson, Van Dyke, and Chekwa. The defense isnt nearly as good this year as last year.
Nnamdi should have gone to Houston who offered him even more money than the Eagles. It worked out for Houston because they were able to sign a younger shutdown CB for less money.
Joseph is who we should have gone after instead of Cromartie. Instead we could only sign leftover scraps in free agency this year, Boss and Heyer. We overpaid for Boss. If not for a good draft and two big trades, we’d have downgraded the team.
November 13th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Cassel is nothing more than an adequate “system” QB who can only win surrounded by a strong cast and a stout defense to keep the opposing O off the field. And Sanchez is a bum.
November 13th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
RaiderTiv Says:
November 13th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
I was always of the opinion that Nnamdi was over rated. And over paid as well as over hyped. He had a reputation of no one wanting to throw his way. He got that rep because no one bothered to throw his way….so his rep was got him where he is today. Not on his ability.
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Nnamdi is a good player. There is no denying that. The issue with Nnamdi is there are winning players and there are losing players. Regardless of ability and skill. Barry Bonds was a losing player. He didn’t win at the high school level, college level or pro level. As soon as the SF Joints got rid of him, they won. It it Bond’s fault? Who knows? I think Nnamdi is the same way. He is just not a winning player. He had a good game today. Is it his fault they are not winning? Who knows?
November 13th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
I have a problem with people beating up on Nnamdi for moving on to the Eagles when he did. He was nothing but a class Raider while he was with us and I’d take him back with open arms if given the opportunity. Nnamdi needed a change of scenery and his moving on may have been good for Oakland too. It forced us to make Routt more responsible and to bring in new talent to develop for the longer range picture. All that has come to pass and hat’s a good thing for the Raiders. We’ve gone through a ton of injuries in the backfield but we are making our way through it. In the long run, we will be stronger because of the next man up having to step up and become effective sooner than later. I feel sorry to some extent for Nnamdi. I feel some of his past players on the Raiders will be seeing the SB Ring before he does. He paid his dues and as we all know, there’s more to it than just the money. I’m sure Nnamdi would really prefer to be back with his Raider teammates given the choice. Maybe we’ll see him again after his Eagle contract is over. Once a Raider, always a Raider.
November 13th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
Oh well…At least the Bungles and Eagles lost today. I’ve put the “no ring” curse on that POS Vick just like I did to Randy…Boofala Boofala…Bwa Ha Ha…
November 13th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
#63: Agreed JB.
November 13th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Wonder if “Charged Up” is still shacked up with that 81 year old woman? Maybe the little brother’s finally gettin’ some?
November 13th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
CanuckRaider Says:
November 13th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Wonder if “Charged Up” is still shacked up with that 81 year old woman? Maybe the little brother’s finally gettin’ some?
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hehehehe. He could be getting some, but after the beat down the Raider put on him, I will bet he then put on some of his own music and then coulnd’t get it up.
November 13th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
OK, Carson Palmer is for real and will be our franchise “elite” QB for the next 5 years. I’ve always felt that he was a very classy player and now the verdict is in. As much as I liked Soup, he wa a very classy player too, Palmer is a whole level or two above Jason. we will be seeing pass efforts that many other QB’s wouldn’t even attempt. We are fortunate that all our WR’s are young and moldable. CP will develop this group into a force to be dealt with. We are extremely lucky to have been able to work a deal for CP. We DID NOT overpay. He’ll prove to be worth every cent.
To make it official, I just ordered my authentic #3 jersey tonight. Should be here in time for he Chicago game. GO RAIDERS!!!
November 13th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Raiders 1st Place!
November 13th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Raiders have a great opportunity to be 2 games up on each division opponent;
Raiders face Minnesota (after playing on MNF six days away) Raiders- ten days from last game;
opponents play Chicago, New England, New York
Raiders this is a must win- 6-4
Denver, Kansas City, San Diego at least two will be 4-6.
November 13th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
if a frog had wings he wouldn’t bump his a$$ when he hopped.
November 13th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
November 13th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
opponents play Chicago, New England, New York
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What you realize when you play is it doesn’t matter what your opponents do. If you win, they’re effed. All the Raiders need to do is focus on Minn and take care of biz.
November 13th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
Aso is gone he isn’t a Raider anymore. Routt is no Aso. Routt more often than not is confused and behind. So how the hell did we lose to KC & DEN? Seriously! Hue had better have a great gameplan cuz the vikes D is no joke. And they have some guy named Peterson too.
November 13th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
My My My,how things can change in this league in just a week.
A week ago about 75% of the RAIDER NATION(self included), was on suicide watch due to the Denver Debacle. I heard it from my hometown Raven fans as they were just about to book their flights for SB 46 after sweeping the season series from the Steelers.
The Raiders destroy San Diego Thurs nite,then today KC gets Tebowed! We gain sole possession of 1st place!! The Ravens get tripped up by the Seahawks…now I got Raven fans on suicide watch!!! LMAO!!!
GO RAIDERS
November 13th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
I’m just happy there is no more venom from a few posters railing on Palmer. .. and calling him a loser..quitter.. has been.. I was really sick of them… now they act like they never criticized him..LOL..
November 13th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
Seattle beats the ravens… incredible. . LOL.. jeckle and Hyde league for sure..
November 13th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
agree with #63
I am a raiders fan, before a Nnamdi fan, but….
Nnamdi went to the highest bidder and that was the Eagles..the same thing 99.9% of you die hard Raiders fans would do.. So all of this , He sucks is Bull Sh1T
1st. the Raiders never offered him a contract, so the whole, ” he should take a Pay cut” is absurd.
2nd. Under the Al Davis Philosophy of defense, he wasent able to shine..No coincidence that he as 3 Ints( even with a horrible DC)
3rd.Nnamdi doesnt suck, he’s in a new defense, with a new DC, with no off season preparation. He’s still an elite CB
4th. He is not making elite QB money, u idiots( Mistabrown) Vick, Manning and Brady make more than Nnamdi in Guarantees and per year…smh
5th . How is Steve Corkon going to talk about loyalty and and wins and losses. ” YOUR NOT EVEN A RAIDERS FAN’ so stfu and be unbiased, like you said..
November 13th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
If you think routt is equal to nmamdi ur crazy…Stanford gets holding, pi, illegal contact or he gets burned..he might make one play a game.. That brown guy made that catch over him
November 13th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
75.ghostraiders Says:
November 13th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
I’m just happy there is no more venom from a few posters railing on Palmer. .. and calling him a loser..quitter.. has been.. I was really sick of them… now they act like they never criticized him..LOL..
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Why the hell do you care so much if someone is critical of Palmer? What a joke. He definitely gets a reprieve this week. With everything working great around him, he had a great game. And just two turnovers this week. Long way to go though. We’re not going to run on everyone and he’ll have to attempt more than 20 passes sooner or later. Let’s just hope “Capatain Pick” doesn’t return. I’ll be evaluating him on a week-to-week basis just like the rest of the team.
November 13th, 2011 at 11:45 pm
time to sign Tatupu (with AP coming up)?
November 13th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
Raiders best OLine in the NFL!
2nd in sacks allowed, #1 rushing team in the NFL!
November 14th, 2011 at 12:36 am
Wow who else is feelin Raiders +1 this week vs the ViQueens shud be easy $$$$ the way thursday nite went looks like Cp3 has timimg down with dm17 badly need number 20 this week he adds that explosion our offense needs….RAAAAIIIIDDDDEEEERRRSSS!!!!!
November 14th, 2011 at 1:07 am
Ghostraiders Says:
November 13th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
I’m just happy there is no more venom from a few posters railing on Palmer. .. and calling him a loser..quitter.. has been.. I was really sick of them… now they act like they never criticized him..LOL..
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It’s the only way they can save face. Palmer laid the smack down on the haters.
November 14th, 2011 at 1:18 am
KC has toughest remaining schedule. It’s brutal. They’re done.
San Diego has a tougher remaining schedule than us by 3 wins (opponents combined)
Denver has an equal remaining schedule as we do, but 1 more home game, which might not actually be a bad thing considering how poorly the Raiders have played at home.
November 14th, 2011 at 2:32 am
kc was never in it. lucky chiefs highly overrated.
November 14th, 2011 at 2:34 am
STEVE youre such a better writer than jerrymc it aint funny . but uhh, this is wuts wrong with the raiders auora. . while its good to remember the good ol days we have to let sum crap go . damn asomugha that friggin traitor. al davis made him & he jus turned his back on the old man.
November 14th, 2011 at 3:31 am
Re-Focused – Raiders @ Chargers, Week 10
November 11th, 2011 | Author: Khaled Elsayed
Pro Football Focus
Thursday Night Football is back on our television, and doesn’t it feel good to have another night of the week dedicated to football?
And doesn’t it feel good to have Mike Mayock on commentary? After only one TNF it’s safe to say that the Mayock and Brad Nessler combination trumps anything else out there, adding insight and relevant analysis to a heated match up that ended up with a score line more competitive than perhaps the performances suggested it should have been.
Why is that? Well for starters you had a San Diego offensive line that (granted they lost two starters) were so routinely beaten, that it was a shock when they didn’t give up pressure on a play. Throw in a defense that couldn’t handle Michael Bush and you have an Oakland team that was simply better than the Chargers. But with a couple of big plays San Diego kept themselves in it, until a couple of sacks at the end of the game gave the Raiders a well-deserved victory. Let’s look at some of the performances that decided this one.
Oakland – Three Performances of Note
More Moore Please
After an impressive pre-season expectations were understandably high for Denarius Moore (+4.2). After his Week 2 performance against Buffalo they only grew, so it was disappointing what followed, as between Week 3-9 he racked up just 13 receptions for 127 yards. Things may be changing with Carson Palmer (+4.0), with the Raiders new signal caller clearly enjoying throwing the ball towards the rookie receiver (18 times in the past two games). This was the week for Moore to respond with some great work five receptions for 123 yards and two touchdowns. As good as the two touchdowns were, his most impressive grab came with 13:20 left in the second quarter. Running a go route, he gets behind Quentin Jammer, only for the ball to be a touch overthrown. Somehow he reaches out to get his hand to the top of the ball, but also maintain control and bring it into his body. That’s not the kind of catch you see made all that often. He’s back in contention for the Race for Rookie of the Year after this display.
Reacting to a snub
When we posted our Mid Season All Pro team there were a few contentious positions that the staff didn’t agree on. One of them, that nobody seems to have picked up on, was at OLB, where we found it incredibly difficult to leave out Kamerion Wimbley (+10.6). But leave him out we did and boy, isn’t he doing a good job of showing us we were wrong. Wimbley took the QB down seven times, with four sacks and a further three hits. Add another seven pressures and you have a quite remarkable 14 pressure day and on just 37 rushes. That’s a pressure for every 2.5 pass rushes. Let’s put that in perspective. Jared Allen, who leads the league in sacks, averages a pressure for every 8.9 pass rushes. Incredible from Wimbley and it wasn’t just the consistency of his pressure but the speed of it. Two of his sacks (15:00 and 1:01 in the second) came as a result of applying pressure within two seconds of the ball being snapped. Pure dominance.
Centered rookie
Normally when we do this we have to find a negative performance, but there really wasn’t one worth talking about from the Raiders, and plenty of positive ones to pick from. So I’m turning my attention to Stefan Wisniewki (+2.9) who performed admirably in his first start at center. After watching him against Denver, I was a little intrigued as to how he would get on. His move from LG seemed to be where it went wrong, and he struggled with Brodrick Bunkley lined up against him. Well I walked away from this quietly impressed with the rookie, despite him giving up two pressures. He had a pretty even encounter with Antonio Garay, something which is easier said than done, and had absolutely no problems with LBs at the second level. Still, his most impressive play for me was getting 25 yards down the field with 8:47 to go in the first, where he managed to lock onto Eric Weddle and help Michael Bush pick up some extra yardage on his 55 yard rumble downfield.
San Diego – Three Performances of Note
The Pace Setter
When Marcus McNeil went out of the game with 7:49 left in the first quarter, nobody could have expected what happened to transpire. Live on the NFL network, a grown man got beaten so badly it was hard to watch at times. That man was Brandyn Dombrowski (-13.1). For those that remember, last year we had to alter our graphs because Dombrowski put in the worst recorded performance in PFF history in Week 3 against Seattle and Chris Clemons. Well the only thing that saved him in this game is that while he played 88 snaps in Seattle, he managed just 65 against the Raiders. Still he now has the dubious honor of having the worst two grades in PFF history after giving up four sacks, one hit and nine pressures on the 52 occasions he attempted to pass block. That is as bad a performance as you’re likely to see, short of putting me at LT and asking me to block Dwight Freeney.
More playing time
I’ll admit it. The more I see of Antwan Barnes (+3.6) the more I think he needs more playing time. The only problem is when Travis LaBoy (+2.9) plays so well in run defense, as a defensive coach you are loathe to take him off the field. The two OLBs had good days for different reasons, with Barnes proving a nuisance to Palmer with a sack (including a forced fumble), a hit and a hurry to go along with a batted pass. He also did a decent job of getting himself in position to make plays in the run game, ending with two tackles for short gains and one for a loss, as well as one that prevented a first down on third down. The only blot on his run defense being two missed tackles. It’s a conundrum for the Chargers, because three into two doesn’t go when you’re using two every down outside linebackers. It’s going to be interesting to see how they handle this when Shaun Phillips returns.
More than just a dip in the Rivers
Does that headline make sense? Probably not, but then it’s kind of fitting because the way Philip Rivers (+1.1) is playing doesn’t make much either. Sure we gave him a ‘positive’ grade but given that our QB grades aren’t normalized, the +1.1 actually represents a below average performance, but what can you expect when you complete just 31.8% of throws when pressured whilst taking six sacks. Rivers isn’t getting bailed out by his receivers (other than the excellent touchdown grab by Vincent Brown) when he’s flinging into double coverage, and just as bad is his accuracy when not pressured, where he completed just 64% of balls when he wasn’t pressured. I remember our fearless founder Neil Hornsby predicting a breakout year for Rivers, and while it’s true he’s taken his game to another level, it’s just a shame that level is quite a few notches below what we’ve come to expect.
Game Notes
- Dombrowski wasn’t the only Chargers lineman to struggle. Tyronne Green (-6.7) gave up a sack, three hits and three hurries, while replacement right guard Scott Mruckowski (-3.4) gave up a sack, hit and four hurries. They all combined so that Rivers was pressured on 53.7% of all drop backs.
- Arm strength concerns, what arm strength concerns? Carson Palmer (+4.1) completed all four balls thrown over twenty yards in the air.
- Remarkable as it may sound, Darrius Heyward-Bey was on the field for all bar six of the Raiders offensive snaps, and ran 21 pass routes. He wasn’t targeted once.
PFF Game Ball
A part of me wants to give it to Denarius Moore, but what Kamerion Wimbley did will go down as one of the most dominant pass rushing performances of the year. Take a bow.
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November 14th, 2011 at 4:00 am
Raiders Team Report
USA Today
A week after the Raiders’ thoroughly disappointing loss to the Broncos, things are looking up for Oakland.
The Raiders took over sole possession of first place in the AFC West on Sunday when the Broncos beat the Chiefs. Oakland is 5-4, while Kansas City, Denver and San Diego are all 4-5.
The Raiders got the weekend off after beating the Chargers in the NFL’s first Thursday night game of the season, 24-17.
It gets better.
Oakland’s next opponent, the Vikings, will be coming off what will surely be a physical, emotional Monday night date against the Packers, while the Raiders have 10 days off in between games.
That should be enough rest to get some key players back to health for the game in Minnesota, most notably running back Darren McFadden and kicker Sebastian Janikowski.
McFadden has been out with a mid-foot sprain since carrying the ball twice Oct. 16 against the Chiefs. Janikowski missed the Kansas City game with a hamstring pull and played in subsequent games against Denver and San Diego but clearly has not been himself.
Janikowski has had to forsake his powerful kickoffs for a three-step approach in which the Raiders attempt to cover high, short kicks. Against the Chargers, the Raiders ran a pass play by Shane Lechler out of formation from the Chargers’ 34-yard line — an area that normally would prompt a field-goal attempt of just over 50 yards.
Other injured players who can use the time to heal include center Samson Satele (knee), free safety Michael Huff (ankle) and cornerback DeMarcus Van Dyke (hamstring).
Against San Diego, the Raiders prevailed despite the injured-caused absences of seven players who began the season as starters.
“Without getting too high on this deal, we’re a 5-4 football team, one game over .500, and there’s so many things we can get better at,” coach Hue Jackson said. “I know we will. We’ve got a lot of work to do, and we’ll keep plugging at this thing.
“This team doesn’t blink. We’ve had all kinds of challenges presented to us this year in terms of losing guys for this game, that game, but they find a way to keep going.”
Middle linebacker Rolando McClain, who missed the loss to Denver and the week of practice leading up to the San Diego game, thinks the break will be beneficial.
“We’ve got a few guys banged up,” McClain said. “It’s all part of the game. The guys that are here now who are healthy have to pick up the slack, and we can use this 10-day break to our advantage and try and get some guys healthy.”
NOTES, QUOTES
TRENDING: Want to know why coach Hue Jackson and defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan emphasize stopping the run? Oakland gave up 75 yards rushing to San Diego and has surrendered 69.6 yards per game on the ground in its five wins. In their four losses, the Raiders have given up 211.0 yards per game.
LINEUP WATCH: Stephon Heyer, a tackle during his time with the Redskins, started at left guard against San Diego and helped the Raiders gain 191 yards rushing while giving good protection to Carson Palmer. Heyer will remain at left guard if Stefen Wisniewski is needed at center against Minnesota because of Samson Satele’s knee injury.
STRATEGY AND PERSONNEL
PLAYER NOTES
—CB Lito Sheppard had five tackles and two passes defensed in his first start with the Raiders.
—S Mike Mitchell had his best game with four tackles and a pass defensed against San Diego.
—DE Desmond Bryant had his first sack of the season against San Diego.
—LB Kamerion Wimbley had four sacks against San Diego, overtaking Richard Seymour (five) for the team lead. Wimbley now has six sacks on the year.
—WR Denarius Moore, with 23 receptions for 396 yards, is within four receptions of Darrius Heyward-Bey for the team lead. His four touchdowns lead the team.
November 14th, 2011 at 4:34 am
One Game at a time…. I wouldn’t rush McFadden back unless hrs 100%
Were gonna need a healthy squad down the stretch ….
The Vikings should be a winnable game …
Raiders 35…..Vikings 27…….
Raiders Baby!.. ” Just get Healthy”…
November 14th, 2011 at 5:03 am
“Aaron saw the guy and he was real physical on the play,” McClain said. “We pride ourselves on being real physical. That’s one of the things we’re trying to establish here with the Raiders. It was a great play. Fortunately the guy got hurt – I mean, unfortunately he got hurt. But it happens.”
Fortunately? Dude you are cruel, lol. That’s what we need!
November 14th, 2011 at 5:29 am
Hey Rockstar, go check the FFL and my timeline of comments.
Before the games started yesterday, I said you would be up 12 points going into tonight.
Lo and behold…..you got a 12 point lead, lol!!!
Prediction skills are a tad rusty, but I still amaze even myself sometimes.
November 14th, 2011 at 5:32 am
McClain is just a mean dude.
I remember the MNF opener, when a donkey was being tackled, and McClain came over to clean it up with a shoulder to the back of the neck of the guy.
McClain got up to walk away nonchalantly, until he realized the ball carrier was slow to get up, so McClain preceded to take a few steps towards him to talk ish to him for not getting up.
I was like damn, that is not a dude to screw with.
Lots of room for improvement with RoMac, but being a nasty MoFo on the field is not one of them.
November 14th, 2011 at 5:49 am
The problem with comparing Routt to Asomougha is that Aso benefited from a much worse team. The opponents did not need to test him because they could run at will, throw to their tight ends, and throw at the really bad CB on the other side of the field.
The Raiders also had a terrible offense, so other teams only needed a score or two to put the game away. At that point, they were just looking to run down the clock. There was no reason to even see how good Nnamdi really was at defending the pass.
And the ones that did test him often succeeded. Philip Rivers was never afraid of him. Nnamdi got exposed several times against the Chargers.
He’s good, but he’s not a Deion like some people around here tried to make him out to be. Definitely not worth what the Eagles paid him.
November 14th, 2011 at 5:50 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
November 13th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
Routt at Nnamdi’s level…beer gogles mate. Routt does not know they plays half the time, he gives up huge plays that are not even credited to him because he is so far away from the receiver.
Routt can play man to man, gets called for PI as often as any DB in the league and is not capable of learning a playbook.
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Nnamdi was throw at 33 times last year and was flagged 7 times….
Routt was thrown at 100 times and flagged 4….
so not only has Routt been playing at Nnamdis level this season… he played better than Nnamdi last season..
But keep acting like you know what you’re talking about.
November 14th, 2011 at 5:52 am
Statistically speaking, we have the lowest rated defense in our division.
Worst pass defense of the 4 teams, and only the Chiefs give up more rushing yards per game than us (1.8 ypg).
Rarely does the worst statistically defense win the divsion, so we need to clean that up in the 2nd half.
If the season were to end today though, we would host a home playoff to the Bengals. Wouldn’t that be awesome if Dalton got hurt, and we had former Bengal Palmer against former Raider Gradkowski?
Also, 2nd part of the season seems like a tougher schedule, playing 3 would-be playoff teams out of the last 7 (Bears, Lions, Packers) after playing only 2 (Pats, Texans) the first 9 games.
November 14th, 2011 at 5:54 am
Nnamdi is one of the most overrated Raiders ever…..
November 14th, 2011 at 6:05 am
Wonder if Nnamdi will make the Pro Bowl this year?
Making the All-Pro team is definately out of the question.
He has made 3 all-Pro teams in his career, and usually if you make 6 or 7 of those, you are considered for the HOF.
And there are a few guys in the HOF who never played in a playoff game.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:06 am
Not saying Nnamdi should be in the HOF, but if he can bag a half dozen more Pro Bowls and a few more All-Pro teams, he will be like Cortez Kennedy this year, making a case for it based on those numbers alone.
And Cortez almost made it, and never played in a playoff game either.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:07 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
November 14th, 2011 at 6:10 am
And if the Eagles get a NFL-caliber QB, that would help Nnamdi’s case moving forward.
If you count the last 7 games of last year, with the first 9 games of this year (16 games;1 full year), Vick is 7-9 with more turnovers than TD’s and QB rating barely over 80.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:10 am
Prediction: Raiders win AFC West and host Bengals in a playoff game. Bengals throw the game hoping to get an extra 1st round pick.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:12 am
Also, 2nd part of the season seems like a tougher schedule, playing 3 would-be playoff teams out of the last 7 (Bears, Lions, Packers) after playing only 2 (Pats, Texans) the first 9 games.
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the jets were 3-1 when we played an the bills were playing well
in my mind those two need to go on ur list. We had a very tough schedule
an after nine I had us at 6-3 or 5-4
go back an check my posts.
We will win the west host a game an go past the first round
Print That!!!
November 14th, 2011 at 6:13 am
I’ve seen people on here complain about the seeding of the NFL playoffs, with the division winners getting a home playoff game no matter their record.
So if the season ended today, we host the Bengals, even though they have a better record than us.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:14 am
The Bills were the 2nd game of the season, lol.
Everyone was a playoff contender at that time.
Just based that off if the season were to end today, who is in the playoffs and who is not, and who have we played or going to play.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:18 am
IN K.C. ON XMAS EVE WONT BE EASY. WILL BE A TAD CHILLY I EXPECT…
November 14th, 2011 at 6:18 am
Check that. The jets were 2-0
my badd
November 14th, 2011 at 6:20 am
Through the first 9 games, we have had 5 home games.
Now we play 4 of the next 7 on the road, with some cold weather involved.
Although, we are the rare California team that seems better prepared for cold-weather than most teams.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:22 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 6:18 am
IN K.C. ON XMAS EVE WONT BE EASY. WILL BE A TAD CHILLY I EXPECT…
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we have won In KC the last four
an in the cold. But this will be a game to possibly circle. But KC schedule is brutel from here on out. So they might be toast by then.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:23 am
Who would have thought that we would have a better road record then home record! Truthfully, we should have a 4-0 road record, but 3-1 is darn good! But we need to win the last 3 home games! 2-3 at home…
November 14th, 2011 at 6:25 am
There is A LOT of quit in the Chiefs, starting with their QB.
Not too concerned about going to Arrowhead. Just thankful that out of our 3 division teams, we already played the Donkeys twice.
They are clearly peaking right now, and the Chiefs and Dolts are going in the toilet.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:27 am
Eff the Donkeys!
They SUCK!!!!!!
I’d GLADLY play them 4 more times this year.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:28 am
Can’t wait for the GB game.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:30 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 6:05 am
Wonder if Nnamdi will make the Pro Bowl this year?
Making the All-Pro team is definately out of the question.
He has made 3 all-Pro teams in his career, and usually if you make 6 or 7 of those, you are considered for the HOF.
And there are a few guys in the HOF who never played in a playoff game.
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He has made 2 AP teams not 3… He was a 3 time Pro Bowler.
No chance he makes it this season…Corey Webster, Patrick Peterson, Carlos Rogers. Are HANDS DOWN better…
Nnamdi isn’t even the best CB on his team this season.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:30 am
Oh yea and no shot whatsoever Nnamdi makes the HOF….
November 14th, 2011 at 6:31 am
LAST 2 REGULAR SEASON GAMES,AT KC ON XMAS EVE AND AT HOME VS S.D. ON NEW YEARS DAY…HAPPY HOLIDAY’S BOYS.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:31 am
Ya jhill after all that’s gone on were 5-4 an look good without dmac an a constantly getting better Palmer. When DMAC gets back. Man look the f’k out.
We scary!!!
November 14th, 2011 at 6:31 am
I’m looking forward to the Bears game.
Outside of the Packers, they might be playing the best football in the NFL right now.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:33 am
I hope that when that time comes, that we are 9-5 with a good lead on the division! But I can see the SD game being the deciding factor on who wins the West!
November 14th, 2011 at 6:34 am
He has made 2 AP teams not 3… He was a 3 time Pro Bowler.
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ACtually, we were both wrong.
4 time All Pro (’06, ‘08, ‘09, ‘10)
No All-Pro this year, because that is both leagues, but I am pretty sure he will get voted into the Pro Bowl.
But HOF voters put more into All-Pro selections (voted by scribes) than Pro Bowls (voted by fans).
November 14th, 2011 at 6:34 am
Ya TB you’re rite. It’s Asante Samuel
Aso is having a bad yr.
Oh well not gonna say f’k him cuz Al didn’t offer him a contract.
Hue begged davis to sign him tho. So it’s not his fault he ain’t here
just sayin!
November 14th, 2011 at 6:36 am
I think we match up well with the Bears.
McClain will keep the Forte screen game in check, and we won’t be giving up TDs to Hester.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:39 am
So I wonder if Chuck B is going to find a way to keep Curry on the field in passing situations, but outta coverage?
Curry blitzing from different spots on the field is a wrinkle I’d like to see.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:40 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 6:34 am
He has made 2 AP teams not 3… He was a 3 time Pro Bowler.
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ACtually, we were both wrong.
4 time All Pro (’06, ‘08, ‘09, ‘10)
No All-Pro this year, because that is both leagues, but I am pretty sure he will get voted into the Pro Bowl.
But HOF voters put more into All-Pro selections (voted by scribes) than Pro Bowls (voted by fans).
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I believe the AP in 06 and 09 were second team.
I mean Michael Huff was AP 2nd team last year..
He made AP second team in 06 and didn’t even make the Pro Bowl.
I still maintain that Nnam is one of the most overrated CB’s ever. Granted, he is playing much less man in Philly but this is something he knew going into Philly.
And just off the top… I don’t see how in any way he would make the Pro Bowl over Webster, Peterson and Rogers..
And Charles Woodson has 5 INT’s (1 for a TD)..still playing at an All Pro level…
Nnamdi has no shot… Nnamdi has been pretty awful this season… I don’t know why you would think he even makes the Pro Bowl
November 14th, 2011 at 6:43 am
and we won’t be giving up TDs to Hester.
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I know we had a lot of success against him a few years ago, but we are one of 3 teams to give up two punt returns for TD’s, and have the 2nd worst punt coverage average in the NFL.
Punt coverage remains an issue.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:44 am
I don’t know why you would think he even makes the Pro Bowl
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Name recognition.
Fans voting.
And the players will still give him the “respect” of being one of the top corners in the league.
We all know a lot of these guys don’t “deserve” to go. Plus, C Wood and another corner will probably not play because of the SB or injury.
I don’t even watch the pro bowl anymore.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:45 am
Punt coverage remains an issue.
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I’ll bet you $ that Branch is a full time gunner against Chicago.
Doubt you’ll see that candy arsse Murphy out there ever again.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:45 am
I don’t know why you would think he even makes the Pro Bowl
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Because 50% of the vote is by fans, and it is a name thing.
No way in hell more people vote for Carlos Rogers over Nnamdi, even if he deserves it more.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:46 am
there is a serious logjam at the HOF. no way aso makes it at this point in his career.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:46 am
I live in Chicago, so I thought about going to the Packer game. Cheapest ticket is $158, though. I’ll pass.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:46 am
I’ll bet you $ that Branch is a full time gunner against Chicago.
Doubt you’ll see that candy arsse Murphy out there ever again.
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Would make sense, and I hope you are right.
But Murphy was covering punts and kicks on Thursday.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:48 am
JFB,WAS THINKING THAT EXACTLY.SPECIAL TEAMS, COVERAGE WISE,IS A LITTLE SCARY RIGHT NOW.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:48 am
Cortez Kennedy almost made the HOF last year, by sandbagging a bunch of Pro Bowl selections.
Never played any meaningful football, never in the playoffs, never on any type of great defense.
If Cortez Kennedy will get a serious look, the same will hold true with Nnamdi.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:52 am
R8dercain Says:
Oh well not gonna say f’k him cuz Al didn’t offer him a contract.
Hue begged davis to sign him tho. So it’s not his fault he ain’t here
just sayin!
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I don’t think it would have mattered if they did offer a contract. At most, it would’ve helped him get more money from the Eagles or someone else. He didn’t want to be here any more. He didn’t think the team would ever be a winner.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:57 am
Nnamdi is stuck playing for an OL coach who turned into a Defensive Coordinator overnight, Andy Reid is to fault for believing he was smart enough to pull it off.
November 14th, 2011 at 7:03 am
Nnamdi should have joined Rob Ryan in Dallas, at least he kind of knows what he’s doing.
November 14th, 2011 at 7:06 am
Bob Marley Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 7:03 am
Nnamdi should have joined Rob Ryan in Dallas, at least he kind of knows what he’s doing.
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Raiders should have brought Rob Ryan back. Defense would be much better.
November 14th, 2011 at 7:12 am
The “Sanchize” is lucky Greg McElroy got hurt in the preseason.
He is getting worse as time goes along, and if the Jets had any other option besides Mark Brunell, they might start considering giving it a look.
November 14th, 2011 at 7:18 am
Anyone else scared ish of A.P facing our d.The guy is a beast!
November 14th, 2011 at 7:20 am
138.mcskinnnylegs Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 7:18 am
Anyone else scared ish of A.P facing our d.The guy is a beast!
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Hope A.P. pulls a hamy in the 1st Q. Dakota is starting him against me tonight in F.F. lol
November 14th, 2011 at 7:22 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 6:48 am
Cortez Kennedy almost made the HOF last year, by sandbagging a bunch of Pro Bowl selections.
Never played any meaningful football, never in the playoffs, never on any type of great defense.
If Cortez Kennedy will get a serious look, the same will hold true with Nnamdi.
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Cortez Kennedy was a 3 time first team all pro and had 8 pro bowls… at this point Nnamdi needs another All Pro selection and about 5 Pro Bowls to even be considered….
He is 30 years old…
not happenin brah…
And Kennedy won’t be getting in anytime soon either..
November 14th, 2011 at 7:23 am
lol exla i’ll be waTCHING THE GAME CLOSELY TONIGHT I WANNA GET A LOOK AT MINNY THIS YEAR WHATS THEIR RECORD?
November 14th, 2011 at 7:24 am
really bums me out to know that michael bush is as good as gone next year.
November 14th, 2011 at 7:26 am
Dude… Tim Brown may never get into the HOF…
TIM BROWN!!!
and we’re talking about Nnamdi??? forreal?
November 14th, 2011 at 7:27 am
dude im in the h.o.f
November 14th, 2011 at 7:29 am
Good morning nation
It is a great. Day to be a raiders fan…no.??first place tastes good right now. we better get used to it
November 14th, 2011 at 7:32 am
I’m not saying Nnamdi IS going in the HOF, but if he bags a few more Pro Bowls and anothe All-Pro or two, he will be like Cortez Kennedy and be considered.
Best thing that could happen to Nnamdi’s HOF chances, is if the Eagles get an NFL-caliber QB and can play in some playoff games.
November 14th, 2011 at 7:33 am
No man!
Nnamdi will not make the hall of fame until he comes up with either more INTs or a couple of championship teams.
If not, forget about it!
Not a self promoter and does not lay WRs out. All the great corners either intimidated players with big hits or took over a game with speed and lip like Prime Time. Plus, his tems won big!!!!
November 14th, 2011 at 7:33 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!!
November 14th, 2011 at 7:34 am
Who could have guessed that Routt would play as well as Asomugha, and the Raiders would be better off without Asomugha?
Have to give credit where credit is due! Al guessed it man, he called it.
November 14th, 2011 at 7:34 am
Steve…time to the subject!!
Nnamdi Ahstah-lwego!!!!
November 14th, 2011 at 7:34 am
Morning bro!
November 14th, 2011 at 7:37 am
I also can’t wait for the Packers game.
Will be in Vegas that weekend.
November 14th, 2011 at 7:38 am
Any injury updates….let’s take a look at tonight’s game and see what we should be looking for!
Steve….wakee, wakee and smell the coffee.
November 14th, 2011 at 7:39 am
raiders shouldve brought marshall back.
i really miss his zone blitzes with our d-linemen dropping in coverage. missed them badly in buffalo on those fourth downs at the end on short field, thats for sure.
hopefully we are just simply not showing everything at this point. like RBs passing the ball. cant believe the Huester didnt call one of those allready lol…must be working so good that he holds it back for the playoffs.
November 14th, 2011 at 7:39 am
Raiders best OLine in the NFL!
2nd in sacks allowed, #1 rushing team in the NFL!
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I think this is the biggest story this year.
A young o-line that has been very strong. You cant say enough about V-deer. After years of complaining about the LT position. And Wiz….
I saw Cooper C pull on a play to the left on Thursday and flatten an SD LB.
Really great that this unit has done so well.
November 14th, 2011 at 7:40 am
Thats Nnamdi’s problem, Fk him
He’s been in the league 8 years what is a DCO going to tell him he doesn’t already know ?
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Bob Marley Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 6:57 am
Nnamdi is stuck playing for an OL coach who turned into a Defensive Coordinator overnight,
November 14th, 2011 at 7:40 am
Vegas, for sure..I didn’t forget!
I’m gonna have to meet up with you at the Hilton…my spots are burned (facebook) after this crazy weekend!!
Too much drama with the baby momma!
November 14th, 2011 at 7:43 am
Man we had a tough schedule this year fellas.
Would of been nice to get that Denver game oh well.
We really need to get this Viking game. After that we have to deal with Chicago and Greenbay. Wow Chicago is a run happy team that could give us fits along with Minn. I hope our offense can put up enough points to keep us in the game.
Lions may get pass happy on us as well and I don’t like our dbs matched up aginst their bigger WRs. WHat I do like about the Lions game is it is a home game and their running game sucks! We have to get to Stafford and rattle his cage to win that game.
November 14th, 2011 at 7:45 am
I hope Green Bay is 12-0 when we meet them in December…I don’t know why, but it seems a little more intriguing…
November 14th, 2011 at 7:45 am
Yep!!! Big things start with a good line. A young line at that, which can only get better. They work hard, need to play a little smarter at times. But I aint knocking them. With our speed with their force could be the making of something special.
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155.Stabler76 Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 7:39 am
Raiders best OLine in the NFL!
2nd in sacks allowed, #1 rushing team in the NFL!
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I think this is the biggest story this year.
A young o-line that has been very strong. You cant say enough about V-deer. After years of complaining about the LT position. And Wiz….
I saw Cooper C pull on a play to the left on Thursday and flatten an SD LB.
Really great that this unit has done so well.
November 14th, 2011 at 7:46 am
DMac may be the best player on the team. But the Oline has been the team’s pillar. Playing at a very high level with a bunch of young linemen… So true, the Oline has been the team’s strength.
November 14th, 2011 at 7:46 am
And big props to Wiz…to move from guard to Center without missing a beat…gotta love it!
November 14th, 2011 at 7:47 am
141.mcskinnnylegs Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 7:23 am
lol exla i’ll be waTCHING THE GAME CLOSELY TONIGHT I WANNA GET A LOOK AT MINNY THIS YEAR WHATS THEIR RECORD?
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2-6. I have the Green Bay Defense so the FF game is a toss-up. A.P. is one bad M*F back.
November 14th, 2011 at 7:47 am
Agree. 12-0 Green Bay vs. the autumn wind. sounds awesome!
November 14th, 2011 at 7:48 am
The only way we can comfortably let Mike Bush go next year is to see more of what Tiwan can do. Right now you have no idea and with DMACs injuries you need a good back up RB. Their games compliment each other well.
The way backs get beat up in this league and they are a dime a dozen, if I am Bush and my team pushes into the playoffs. With this o-line I consider staying a Raider.
November 14th, 2011 at 7:49 am
Going into tonight, Peterson has 795 yrds rushing.
November 14th, 2011 at 7:55 am
The o-line played its best football in three weeks with Wiz at C and Heyer at LG. I wonder if a healthy Satele pushes Wiz back to LG.
November 14th, 2011 at 8:06 am
Hope I see some injury’s on Minni’s side….just sayin!
Maybe AP will go out with a hamy…Allen out with a torn pectoral muscle!!
November 14th, 2011 at 8:11 am
Gap discipline. The D line needs to be patient with AP and hold their assignments.
November 14th, 2011 at 8:12 am
NEW!~ 11-14-11: OAKLANDS “BUTCH COOLIDGE”
Safety Matt Girodano’s improbable rise matches the Raiders…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/ones_to_watch
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Niiice…
November 14th, 2011 at 8:12 am
167. I hope Satele sits for Minnesota or we aree in trouble again. No lie. Warrior and all, but he struggles when dinged.
November 14th, 2011 at 8:22 am
TBrown < HOF
November 14th, 2011 at 8:33 am
So should the Raiders target DeSean Jackson in free agency?
November 14th, 2011 at 8:37 am
“So should the Raiders target DeSean Jackson in free agency?”
No more cry babies!
NO!!
NO!!!
Stay away you little douche cry baby ME ME guy!
November 14th, 2011 at 8:38 am
J Hill Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 8:33 am
So should the Raiders target DeSean Jackson in free agency?
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No. We already have Moore and Ford. Jackson will a 49er next year.
November 14th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Jackson will a 49er next year.
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I think DeSean to the Bears would be intriguing… with Cutlers cannon of an arm and a definite need for a deep threat.
November 14th, 2011 at 8:44 am
J Hill Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 8:33 am
So should the Raiders target DeSean Jackson in free agency?
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That guy’s a punk.
He does have Raider Speed though….
November 14th, 2011 at 8:49 am
177.LA to TheBay Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 8:44 am
J Hill Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 8:33 am
So should the Raiders target DeSean Jackson in free agency?
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That guy’s a punk.
He does have Raider Speed though….
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I think we are good at WR. I would like to see a GOOD vet safty and some young guys to learn behind Sey and Kelly.
November 14th, 2011 at 8:50 am
Raiders already have “Raider speed”. They don’t need Jackson, they need defenders.
November 14th, 2011 at 8:54 am
LOL, Bayless thinks the Broncos are going to win the AFC West! Bayless is the MR of ESPN. Loves to be contrary. Broncos will be no better than 6-10.
November 14th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Hope I see some injury’s on Minni’s side….just sayin!
Maybe AP will go out with a hamy…Allen out with a torn pectoral muscle!!
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yup
November 14th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Albert,
How’s MR’s ass taste?
November 14th, 2011 at 9:02 am
LOL, Bayless thinks the Broncos are going to win the AFC West! Bayless is the MR of ESPN. Loves to be contrary. Broncos will be no better than 6-10.
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To put it nicely, Bayless is an idiot.
November 14th, 2011 at 9:04 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Albert,
How’s MR’s ass taste?
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20 bucks says like a Trojan.
November 14th, 2011 at 9:05 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Albert,
How’s MR’s ass taste?
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Bo, I’ve never met MR, so I wouldn’t know.
November 14th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Why are you guys so obsessed with men’s anuses?
November 14th, 2011 at 9:06 am
They just showed N.E.’s schedule….NFL blows!!!
C’mon Man!!
November 14th, 2011 at 9:07 am
FA targets should be Aubrayo Franklin and Paul Soliai on the defensive line, and Tracy Porter and Brandon Carr at CB.
Of course, Mario Williams would certainly help the Raiders hold the edge, and would allow Lamarr Houston to move inside… not sure the money is there to outbid the rest of the league on that one, though.
November 14th, 2011 at 9:08 am
Would love to see the Raiders defense gel with the young players, though. Still, I think we’ve seen the ceiling for Kelly and Seymour on the inside of the defensive line.
November 14th, 2011 at 9:10 am
Anyone still think we’d be better off with San Diego beating the Chiefs?
November 14th, 2011 at 9:10 am
R8eray Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 9:06 am
They just showed N.E.’s schedule….NFL blows!!!
C’mon Man!!
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Schedule is based on a rotating system. It’s fair.
November 14th, 2011 at 9:15 am
Stickum37HOF Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 7:39 am
hopefully we are just simply not showing everything at this point. like RBs passing the ball. cant believe the Huester didnt call one of those allready lol…must be working so good that he holds it back for the playoffs
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He called it already but DMAC pulled it down and ran it for nice gain.
November 14th, 2011 at 9:22 am
S. Moore made a nice hit last night. Knocked the guy out of the game. To bad it was his team mate.
November 14th, 2011 at 9:28 am
So first placers…..how do ya feel on this glorious november monday morning?
November 14th, 2011 at 9:28 am
So, since Philadephia is having a poor season and the Raiders are a mere 2 games better than them, it’s time to criticize Nnamdi Asomugha? Will this article be remembered should the Raiders NOT win the division and/or make the playoffs, because reaching either goal is still very much in question.
It’s only a one-game lead in the AFC West, and barely that when you consider how we arrived here, yet the author and others “fans” are THIS confident?
November 14th, 2011 at 9:30 am
191.Albert Bigelow Paine Strikes Back Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 9:10 am
R8eray Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 9:06 am
They just showed N.E.’s schedule….NFL blows!!!
C’mon Man!!
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Schedule is based on a rotating system. It’s fair.
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MR im sure you think its fair….your SB dream of 49ers vs Pats may become a reality eh?
November 14th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Doesn’t make no nevermind we will finish ahead of those scrubs anyhow.
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inonewordraider Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 9:10 am
Anyone still think we’d be better off with San Diego beating the Chiefs?
November 14th, 2011 at 9:32 am
195.DEVASTATORS Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 9:28 am
So, since Philadephia is having a poor season and the Raiders are a mere 2 games better than them, it’s time to criticize Nnamdi Asomugha? Will this article be remembered should the Raiders NOT win the division and/or make the playoffs, because reaching either goal is still very much in question.
It’s only a one-game lead in the AFC West, and barely that when you consider how we arrived here, yet the author and others “fans” are THIS confident?
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Spare us newbie…seriously….Philly was for sure a SB contender in many eyes and the Raiders were suppose to be significantly worse
Nnamdi deserves all the heat possible….from being overrated to having a homo hairdo. Eagles stink and Nnamdi is right apart of the losing as he was here
November 14th, 2011 at 9:33 am
DEVASTATORS Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 9:28 am
So, since Philadephia is having a poor season and the Raiders are a mere 2 games better than them, it’s time to criticize Nnamdi Asomugha? Will this article be remembered should the Raiders NOT win the division and/or make the playoffs, because reaching either goal is still very much in question.
It’s only a one-game lead in the AFC West, and barely that when you consider how we arrived here, yet the author and others “fans” are THIS confident?
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let’s make this is your last post here
November 14th, 2011 at 9:33 am
Good to see that bum snarfing talk has stopped…Thought I’d accidentally hit a SF fetish site.
November 14th, 2011 at 9:34 am
inonewordraider Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 9:10 am
Anyone still think we’d be better off with San Diego beating the Chiefs?
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I sure did….never thought KC would lay an egg back to back weeks…but all I wanted was what i got now….first place on this monday morning was my aim
November 14th, 2011 at 9:34 am
Palmer is only going to get better every week all the way up to week 16. We get some guys back from injury and the NFL will be on notice sometime around week 12.
The end.
November 14th, 2011 at 9:34 am
199.inonewordraider Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 9:33 am
DEVASTATORS Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 9:28 am
So, since Philadephia is having a poor season and the Raiders are a mere 2 games better than them, it’s time to criticize Nnamdi Asomugha? Will this article be remembered should the Raiders NOT win the division and/or make the playoffs, because reaching either goal is still very much in question.
It’s only a one-game lead in the AFC West, and barely that when you consider how we arrived here, yet the author and others “fans” are THIS confident?
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let’s make this is your last post here
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LOL…good one….I think we can become cool now…this post sucked
November 14th, 2011 at 9:35 am
Check yourself B, didnt you see Nnamdi Potter shut down 1/64 of the field last night ?
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Method To My Madness Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Spare us newbie…seriously….Philly was for sure a SB contender in many eyes and the Raiders were suppose to be significantly worse
Nnamdi deserves all the heat possible….from being overrated to having a homo hairdo. Eagles stink and Nnamdi is right apart of the losing as he was here
November 14th, 2011 at 9:35 am
You know it at #202!
November 14th, 2011 at 9:35 am
195.
See it how you like. But for most it’s like finding an oasis in the desert. It’s been a long hard drought and it’s nice to be able to say we are in first place and the team is close to bring really good.
November 14th, 2011 at 9:36 am
202.MistaBrown Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 9:34 am
Palmer is only going to get better every week all the way up to week 16. We get some guys back from injury and the NFL will be on notice sometime around week 12.
The end.
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They on notice now….name last time we led division by ourselves…..NFL scared of us….we been thru hell the first 9 weeks and are in first place. They all saw the natl tv whoppin and no one expected us to win
November 14th, 2011 at 9:38 am
204.MistaBrown Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 9:35 am
Check yourself B, didnt you see Nnamdi Potter shut down 1/64 of the field last night ?
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Method To My Madness Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Spare us newbie…seriously….Philly was for sure a SB contender in many eyes and the Raiders were suppose to be significantly worse
Nnamdi deserves all the heat possible….from being overrated to having a homo hairdo. Eagles stink and Nnamdi is right apart of the losing as he was here
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He is worth the money….3 wins and in last place lol. nnamdi its as if ya never left Oakland
November 14th, 2011 at 9:38 am
204.MistaBrown Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 9:35 am
Check yourself B, didnt you see Nnamdi Potter shut down 1/64 of the field last night ?
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Method To My Madness Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Spare us newbie…seriously….Philly was for sure a SB contender in many eyes and the Raiders were suppose to be significantly worse
Nnamdi deserves all the heat possible….from being overrated to having a homo hairdo. Eagles stink and Nnamdi is right apart of the losing as he was here
Ummm…1/64th…is that the pigeon? Wait…that would be more…
November 14th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Wonder if the “Green Dream Team” will make the mistake of letting Samuel go in the off-season? He’s their best DB under the system they run.
November 14th, 2011 at 9:41 am
At the risk of getting bashed. I would take Nnam back for the right price.
November 14th, 2011 at 9:42 am
When is the last time we had a Qb that could go deep with Palmers accuracy? WOW….the running game will be dangerous from the deep threat.
Bush & DMAC are going to see holes you only see in Amsterdam!!!
JUST WIN BABY!
November 14th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Don, go sit in the corner and think about your actions.
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DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 9:41 am
At the risk of getting bashed. I would take Nnam back for the right price.
November 14th, 2011 at 9:43 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/14/vick-has-broken-ribs-rodgers-cromartie-has-high-ankle-sprain/
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Vick is such a badass! Busted ribs, no Maclin and no Desean. Still had a 4th qtr lead. The D came up so small in the 4
November 14th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Our targets in FA should be: LB depth, A big bashing RB (If Bush leaves although the draft could provide this as well), OL depth and possibly CB.
November 14th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Super Bowl:
Raiders 42
49ers 17
November 14th, 2011 at 9:45 am
Vick deserves a lot more than broken ribs…Here’s hoping he gets it.
November 14th, 2011 at 9:46 am
212.MistaBrown Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 9:42 am
When is the last time we had a Qb that could go deep with Palmers accuracy? WOW….the running game will be dangerous from the deep threat.
Bush & DMAC are going to see holes you only see in Amsterdam!!!
JUST WIN BABY!
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Yeah but when will dmac come back? something is up
November 14th, 2011 at 9:46 am
MistaBrown Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Don, go sit in the corner and think about your actions.
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DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 9:41 am
At the risk of getting bashed. I would take Nnam back for the right price
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Man I cant do anything!!!! shheeezz.
November 14th, 2011 at 9:47 am
I think DMAC will be at practice tomorrow. If not there is something serious going on.
November 14th, 2011 at 9:48 am
218.Method To My Madness Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 9:46 am
212.MistaBrown Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 9:42 am
When is the last time we had a Qb that could go deep with Palmers accuracy? WOW….the running game will be dangerous from the deep threat.
Bush & DMAC are going to see holes you only see in Amsterdam!!!
JUST WIN BABY!
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Yeah but when will dmac come back? something is up
I say Chicago…unless its really broken…
November 14th, 2011 at 9:50 am
If his foot is broke why not just say it. I dont get that strategy at all. Its not like we cant throw Bush at them and say hey DMAC is out so what, how do you like our Bush?
November 14th, 2011 at 9:50 am
I would like to see Bush come back. And then have him spend the off season doing Dmac’s off season program. What ever Dmac is doing has help his feet greatly. He doesnt trip himself in the open field anymore and he looks faster. When he’s not hurt that is.
November 14th, 2011 at 9:51 am
And Mista….Thats a nice Bush!
November 14th, 2011 at 9:52 am
kc upcoming schedule:
@ NE
Pitt
@Chi
@NYJ
GB
Oak
@Den
that’s at least 4 losses making them at best a 7 win team
Denvers upcoming schedule:
NYJ
@SD
@Min
Chi
NE
@Buff
KC
I say at least 4 losses here making them a 7 win team at best
SD to me is still the comp because with their talent they might surprise some of these:
@Chi
Den
@Jac
Buf
Bal
@Det
@oak
=we gotta take care of our business. Win at Minn at Mia at KC and at home versus SD =playoffs. 9 wins will win this division
November 14th, 2011 at 9:53 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 9:41 am
At the risk of getting bashed. I would take Nnam back for the right price.
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Pryor to the Eagles.
I kid, I kid. Kind of.
November 14th, 2011 at 9:54 am
rofl
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Mark Sanchez took a timeout late in the first half of the New York Jets’ 37-16 loss to the New England Patriots that earned special distinction from Rex Ryan as “the stupidest thing in football history.”
Rex’s beef was that Sanchez should have let the play clock run all the way down before calling a timeout. The Jets weren’t pressed for time; either they were getting a touchdown on the next play or kicking a field goal after. They got the touchdown and, by calling the timeout, gave Tom Brady(notes) and the Patriots extra time with which to respond with a touchdown of their own.
November 14th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Pervert
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DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 9:51 am
And Mista….Thats a nice Bush!
November 14th, 2011 at 9:55 am
227…whaaaaat? LOL
November 14th, 2011 at 9:56 am
The Jets will unravvle from here and Rex will be a Def Coor again, soon