Israel-Turkey diplomatic crisis nears its end

with it's 99.7% Muslims??? A model for Multiculturalism I suspect.

The Wolrd would rather have 10 Bibi's in the Cabintet,-than one Lieberman as PM of Israel!

Today or tomarrow Israil has to apalogise for the being killed 9 Turkish citisens. Because Israil did a wrong action by killing those people. Whether you apoligise or not ; majority of the Turkish people will be still hating from Israil politics and politicians (not Jewish people)

No stupid as Turkey needs to prove it can be a secular,reliable member of the EU but with an Islami st troublemaking govt. currently in power it has no chance in the forseeable future of getting into the EU so papering up it,s conflict with Israel ?looappearingapearing appearingappappear

I can't really see what one thing has to do with the other? And let me reassure you: Turkey doesn't need 'to prove' anything,- to anybody. After all we were trustworhty enough to be a Member of NATO for more than 58 Years, and a trustworthy Ally of the West! And just one additional Point: Statistics show that most of the turkish Public Opinion is fed-up with the EU, continuous new criteria additions, etc., for joining this 'apparently' so illustrious club! In short: Most turkish Citizens, today, including myself, wouldn't even want Turkey joining the EU,-anymore! So: That's that!

do not deny , you are alone in the region and Turkey is the single hand which you can shake. You cannot stand to loose this hand.Beside; you are guilty in this matter.All world seen it.

..because Israel's relations are built on its own interests, and not on the basis of "friendship". Israel will use Turkey for as long as it needs to, and will then stab us in the back when needs dictate.

What your talking about is Police brutality anyone responsable will be punished, Erdogan is against stuff like this specially to the students, we will see what happends im greatly upset about the girl who had a miscarriage

Cipora, you are seriously confused.

erdogan is sending his thugs to beat up his own people while asking for apologies for the acts of turkish ihh terrorists.

Gone are the days when the IDF could scam the world into believing that all its victims are terrorists.

... but am completely delighted with the outcome... Turkey deserves apology and compensation for unnecessary fatalities...

...... I am very depressed by the possible outcome, if we apologize and pay money .... Turkey does in fact NOT deserve ANY apology, not to speak compensation, for the fatalities that became necessary due to its sending barbaric, bellicose goons to create enormous trouble (as there is not enough already) and succeeded in spades ....and we are forced by our relations with America and Europe to cave in to this callous government of Turkey!

there should be no apology and no money.

...to hear such heartwarming words. My Family, originally, also come from Izmir. Turks of jewish faith have always been a hardworking and intelligent addition to our Nation. Don't forget: They are Turks...even though of jewish Faith! Who should care about that in the 21st. Century! Best wishes to Izmir & your family members there. Shalom & Saygiyla selamlar!

He's too arrogant to recognize the need

How did the soldiers recieve knife wounds, bullet wounds, They were attacked with axes metal rods. Outnumbered 40 to 1 . Did you see the footage. It looked like something out of the night of the living dead. The people that died had expressed a wish to become shahids. Why should Israel apologize for granting them their wish. I suggest you take a look at the BBC documentary on this issue it clearly shows what really went on.

Turk, you should be honest... tell us about Greeks and Armenians murdered by your Grandfathers... Where is Turkish apology?

i fail to understand how these events of the World war 1 period has to do with the murdering of 9 civlilians ? the first was a chaotic wide-spread war in which turks were compelled to defend themselves against those who attempted to stab them in the back. Now, what is the, link resemblance, connection etc. between these events ? what were yourgrandfather doing at that time ? collecting berries ? please read some history.

Will they be staring to them while our grandmothers and other being killed by Armenian and Greek gangs. Look my man there was a war and at that time it was normal to have some unwanted events or fatalities.

You summarized the whole event in a good and understandable way. Congratulations...

Miron, How you dare to compare so called steel bars with lethal weapons ! Do you think of they are same ? If this is the way of your thinking then lets forget the rest. I mean there is no meaning for you the life of civilians as human beings...

Additionally, the flotilla incident is not handled calmly by Israeli Government. That is the main problem. The passengers were not the most good intentioned people towards Israel but there had been killings. This fact weakened the hand of Israel Government. While she can get the same result, attack made the radicals look weak, poor and helpless. As a Turk, I hate these islamist radicals but the deaths made it work for the provocateur side, flotilla passengers. I wish the incident was handled without blood... On the other hand, Israel's (not only the government's) image is getting worse and worse, because of the "too tight" administration in the Palestanian region. Look at the reactions of European countries after the incident. I hope this changes for the good of Israel. We are still friends guys...

As a Turkish citizen I feel deeply sorry for what had happened between 1914-1918 in Ottoman Empire. On the other hand I just can't get why should we apologize or pay any compensation for what fathers of our grandfathers did? Just because we live in Anatolia now which happens to be Ottoman soil once?

Additionally, the flotilla incident is not handled calmly by Israeli Government. That is the main problem. The passengers were not the most good intentioned people towards Israel but there had been killings. This fact weakened the hand of Israel Government. While she can get the same result, attack made the radicals look weak, poor and helpless. As a Turk, I hate these islamist radicals but the deaths made it work for the provocateur side, flotilla passengers. I wish the incident was handled without blood... On the other hand, Israel's (not only the government's) image is getting worse and worse, because of the "too tight" administration in the Palestanian region. Look at the reactions of European countries after the incident. I hope this changes for the good of Israel. We are still friends guys...

Well said P. It's unimaginable for gutless Congress to demand compensation for a US citizen from Israel

It's Israel who's destroyed the relationship - NOT Erdogan!

Those soldier didn't like the fact that their boys were being shoved around by the activists and responded by using lethal force against unarmed people - much of which was done in cold blood according to the forensics. They deserve NO friggin' respect!

The only thing the "helpless people" of gaza needs. Is to have hamas thrown out. Then you could start building your free country! Also if you stop with your rocket attacks etc on Israel you might also find peace!

The shame is on Israel for having killed 9 unarmed activists

no shame on earth can surpass the act of killing

Turkey didn't sent them. They are just from Turkey.

LOL @ Israel's Bar Association if it has these members. In America, we would never license you if you hold these views based on the facts.

Bibi is your elected PM. The one who you have been fully supporting while he was dodging any peace process and favoring illegal settlements. He's still your PM. The one you supporeted.

who's responsible for the massacre

Just another attempt by Turkey to get EU acceptance ,but it won,t help the Islamist troublemaking Erdogan as mainly Christian Europe has long since seen the light of Muslim intransigence,violence and the 6th century peasantry it comes with,no thanks?

And killing unarmed people and then trying to claim they were terrorists is a BIG mistake!

you will loose your peace and have no honor. i know no honorable man who is in constant trouble.

Yes, even with those we don't need.

Israel needs its neighbors to coexist with them to live happily ever after. It is Israel’s century of power right now and it is spoiled by its talented Jewish people who are given a choice to come back to live in their birth-land after many centuries of fleeing away against their will and facing a holocaust that no race of a single faith ever faced. The Muslim must rejoice to coexist with the Israel state of the Jews because Israel was there before the time of Christianity and Islam. The catch is whether Israel could live with itself and could survive another century by occupying its neighbor’s lands instead reaching for eternal peace that God is quizzing.

Dear David, Israel is seeking peace. I fully agree with you. But don't you agree that recently they are doing it with a more hate-full way? Don't you think that Turkey's friendship and influence can also help Israel to find the peace that it seeks?

ironically, there has been no peace in the region since 1947.

We lik jews.. It is a good politic...

There is no one electable to the right of Bibi.

Israelis voter for rights, (look at Knesset members), hence, no doubt, the next prime minister will be from right. Left camp has only Livni, but you should be belonging to the Harts Editorial believing she can be elected.

You should be belonging to the Loons editorial believing she cannot be elected (I voted for Bibi, by the way).

Let me remind that Livni even von the election. So what? She could not form the government. Why? She cannot be the prime minister due to shift to the right of the Israel voters.

Pirates do NOT hand over goods( which were rubbish that Hamas refused to accept,showing aid was not the IHH jihadists motive) Governments can not pirates by law. But keep talking anyway.

Dear (miss?) Fortuna Benmayor. Using ur logics in my arithmetics to calculate how far back Turkey should travel back & "start all over" ,using ur formula on urself suddenly reorients U 2 some very odd figure.. in "time-line" this is with the Christian TL. when we talk law, int.law, then also Piracy is Piracy allaround the planet If U was paddling in international waters all allone in ur canoo, then U are the Capten of that boat, and u have the right allso to be armed(against Piracy) then NO 1 has the right to climb / be elevated to Ur canoo, if aomething like that happends U have the Lawful right to defend urself. EVERY SPOT in International waters. ..- so im not sure that Ur Teaset is complete.. If U c what its about.

All naval deliveries to Gaza still go through Israel, and so no weapons can be delivered. Gaza naval blockade is still in place.

Good to hear some sanity from god. Usually on this site god only speaks in angry tones and reinforces myths.

There was a raid against the flotilla. The Israeli commanders with the state of the art arm raided on a boat on the international water illegally and they started shooting people. What Israel did was illegal and I am happy they are apologizing for it. Israel needs to restore the relations with their best ally in the region. Good move by Bibi...

Which by the way WAS a legal act, as has been discussed extensively in international media. And paintball guns are not state of the art.

Wrong. They attacked the soldiers when they landed on the boat. Photos showed bloodied Israeli soldiers being dragged, by the IHH thugs. There was also gunfire from the IHH THUGS. Wrong, Erdogen is an enemy, full of hate.

Yes, just watch the video by Iara Lee. Clearly those on board were afraid and defended themselves. Besides, autopsies have showed that many were shot in the head or other parts of the body at very close range.

Frankly the kurds should apologize to turkey and that is coming soon trust me

Yea, Turkey should apologise for invervening to preclude greeks from massacring Turkish cypriots. Remember, Britain, Turkey and Greece are 3 Guarantor states in Cyprus, they have right to intervene whenever they see their citizens in danger. After all, If Turkey had not intervened, Greece would have still be ruled by military Junta! Turkish intervention overthrew Junta. Find a better way to express your gratitude.

There are way too many Rabbis with political views. I thought that they were men (and women) of "religion." As in America, the preachers and priests have too much sway. The Rabbis should be careful of becoming too "nationalistic." Is that what god wants?

when was the day that you lost your sanity? Is it part of your job to ignore what really happens and blindly follow what u deem to be true? I have hope that both Turkey & Israel get rid of the extrimist elements within their country. Your job is about faith, peace & loving Yahwey/God/Allah, not about taking a political stance.... u and all extrimist disgust me!

No witnesses,no media complaints. If the media get out of hand they get killed as well or thrown in jail without charge.

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If Israel's existence in the ME depends on the goodwill of Turkey, the country is finished.

Well put Dave! if only the rst of the people here could only see the bigger, better picture for Israel & Turkey. The future can be so good if only we really started believe it can be. Well done again Dave!

Benefit from Turkey's influence in ME. Or just stay isolated for years! Hope you dont think of yourselves living in EU or US. You guys are in ME, and should understand and accept its dynamics.

Publicly disgracing yourself and letting deceitful Muslims embarrass you has no positive benefits. That's not how they how they operate. It's just an invitation to be walked all over in the future. Turkey who can not even acknowledge the genocide of Armenians or apologize to Kurds has no write to demand apologies from others. Perhaps when any Muslim on the planet apologizes for anything there can be a discussion. Are any Muslims willing to humble themselves to Jews in the manner Dave suggests Israel do? Of course not. Israel's biggest mistake with Turkey was not immediately blaming the whole flotilla on them and loudly demanding an apology.

And yes, it will be a bend over

It's that simple.

that still doesn't get you off the hook. The two are separate issues. If we follow your logic Igor, Israel could hold out its apology to Turkey until Al-Qaeda apologizes to U.S for 9-11

Igor better start with the cavemen and it is a long history of violence of the mankind. People living in Turkey today have nothing to do with atrocities of 100 years ago.

As normal. I will only be moral when the totality of the rest of the world is. Until then. . .

er....what?

...to all the Antisemitic incitement they caused for hundreds of years against Jewish Ottoman subjects. Pogroms and violence against those Jews, only to be saved and protected by the MOSLEM Ottoman authorities. Ask any Turkish Jew, and you will hear about the truth ! What about that apology ???

They're not separate when Muslims demand Jews apologize for every imagined slight, while never apologizing for anything themselves. A Muslim today will still tell you the Jews of Medina were traitors and deserved to be killed. And that dhimmi laws were good for Jews. Name one time a Muslim nation has apologized for anything? This is why they are obsessed with scapegoating Israel in the first place.

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The only ones who attacked here were Israeli soldiers armed-to-the-teeth boarding an unarmed civilian vessel on International Waters. Apologies and compensation are more than due. Erdogan should not soften on this one. He is clearly on the right here.

And pigs could fly

They are around Tel-Aviv & your head :)

Erdogan took action against Israels Gaza blockade. The entire world opposed the Gaza blockade. Not even America and Israels other "yes men" supported the Gaza blockade. Erdogan was simply the only one with the courage to take action on what everybody believed to be the right thing.

Lots of countries list Hamas as terrorists for obvious reasons Erdogan is looking to be King of the M.E. he will use the Pal issue just like the rest of your brothers,to suit himself

If there was no blockade of Hamas in Gaza the fools there would arm to the teeth with Iran's help and blessing and the cowardly IRGC would then have yet another proxy border with Israel from which to unleash their WMDs on Israel, forcing it to retaliate with even more force on Hamas and resulting in yet more collateral damage, including more civilians caught in the crossfire. What do you have against the Palestinians that you hate them so in proposing their militant, dysfunctional government gain even more empowerment and bring about even more misery for their people? If Erdogan really showed "courage" in attempting to break Israel's blockade of Gaza why did he carefully choose to send the militant dregs of Turkish society to enforce his misguided foreign policy and not head the whole operation instead?

don't you just continue to provoke Turkey, your only "friend" in the ME. You have already made enemies of almost the whole globe, including (I would hope0, America. Hubris, then Nemesis.

Just what weapons were found on the Gaza Flotilla ships? Ping pong balls? What? Name them. You are beyond arrogant.

We have nothing against stopping weapons getting to Hamas in Gaza. What we object to is the treatment of the civilians there. Deprivation of food, clothes, medicines, medical facilities, etc. Please justify why Pasta and childrens school books, etc, should have been blockaded. Any one with a modicum of intelligence could see that the blockade was not only illegal but punitive. Open your eyes and be honest with yourself. This has to change. Israel does itself no favors with this behavior.

3) Egypt receives funding from the US, very likely to ensure Egypt maintains the Peace Agreement and crossings agreement

I too disagreed with some of the items on the list that Israel had previously barred but to not mention the thieving Hamas misfits that commandeer incoming goods and first stock up their warehouses with them and then charge exorbitant markups for the free donations is downright daylight robbery of the Palestinians in Gaza. When Hamas dug and reinforced their terror tunnels and then launched acts of war against Israel did you expect these brave men to hide there like cowards instead and leave their defenseless civilians above ground in more vulnerable positions to face the collateral wrath of the incoming IDF? Do you know how many Palestinians from Gaza are treated in proper Israeli hospitals and how many specialized surgeries are done freely for them? I've had enough of "a modicum of intelligence" to have actaully visited these areas and learned things firsthand, and you? Not having been there you have no clue how readily the Israelis would chip in and help build a beautiful PA State in this highly desirable section of the Mediterranean coastline if only Hamas would even consider true peace with the Jewish State instead of feeding daily on their hate-filled and misguided militant charter. Do you remember how the approved goods from the Turkish flotilla sat rotting and collecting dust at the border with Israel because Hamas' nose was out of joint and the World Cup happened to be on at the same time? Do you remember how the charlatan Arafat would accept incoming billions of sacrificial aid from the West and in return just put up a cheap wooden sign on some lots saying that this and that will be built there. Well no buildings came of it but the money was blown on instruments of death and destruction instead and also to stuff his Swiss accounts with. Please prove to us you really care about the Palestinians in Gaza and be honest in your appraisal of their derelict, dysfunctional leaders.

what fight has he ever been involved in? yelling at an octogenarian Peres in Switzerland?

Fresh news in case you didn't know. The blockade had nothing to do with "missiles", and certainly not the flotilla, which was only carrying food, concrete and toys. Hamas acquired as many rockets as it wanted through the tunnels. The whole point of the blockade is punishing Gazans and encourage them to overthrow Hamas. Even Israel acknowledged so much

is two different commodities.

Having read this latest.