Downton Abbey: series two, episode eight

A sudden death and some top-class villainy helps the finale rise above this season's rushed plots and messy dialogue

Downton Abbey: series two, episode eight
Downton Abbey: series two, episode eight. Photograph: Nick Briggs/ITV

SPOILER ALERT: This blog is for people watching Downton Abbey on ITV1. Don't read any further if you haven't seen episode eight.

Viv Groskop's episode seven blog

"Do you know, I'm not at all well either..." Aspirin, cinnamon and milk all round. First we had a red herring with Cora going all Twilight on us: "Ah yes. A haemorrhage of the mucus membranes. It's a strange disease with sudden, savage changes." (We love Dr Clarkson.) And then: ding dong, Ginger Lavinia is dead! But what this? It's made things worse, not better. Rats!

One of the better episodes of series two (and you can count them with one and a half fingers of Thomas' mangled hand), this was a finale almost worthy of the once-great Downton Abbey. Kudos must go to Ginger Lavinia (Zoe Boyle) – acting-wise, this was her finest hour.

Many of the cast excelled themselves here. Molesley had a lovely turn as a comedy drunk. Mrs Patmore had some great stirring action over a soup billowing so much smoke it looked like it was going to explode. Carson was brilliant in his indignation over the union of Lady Sybil and the chauffeur. (Although I cringed when Branson replied, "No problem there, Mr Carson." What is this, the Bronx circa 1987?)

Mrs Hughes made the most of her small but perfectly-formed part. (No jokes about Matthew at the back, please.) I loved her face when Hugh Bonneville asked about who was ill in the house: "Which maids? Not Jane?" Mrs Hughes knows. I'm hoping that detail will come back to haunt us in series three. (Yes, it's official, there will be a series three, set in the early 1920s.)

This was also a Cousin Violet feature episode. "She's so slight a real necklace would flatten her." "Don't be defeatist, dear, it's very middle class." "I'm sure Branson has many virtues... He's a good driver." "Wasn't there a masked ball in Paris when cholera broke out?"

But still this episode featured all the unfortunate hallmarks of series two: too much going on and not all of it making sense, massive character turnarounds and more messy dialogue stretching credulity. I spluttered when Jane, asked the Earl of Grantham, as if she were his therapist: "But how are you, really?" I know they've bonded over her son's scholarship to Ripon Grammar, but honestly.

Poor Hugh Bonneville was left to sum up the plight of the cast in one sentence: "How can this be? My whole life gone over a cliff in the course of a single day." You're lucky if you get a day, mate. For most of Downton's characters it happens over five minutes. Try being Lady Mary.

And so we bid a fond farewell to this great, hammy, confusing, wonderful, oftentimes disappointing Great British experiment. Who will we miss the most? Isis the labrador, of course.

Villains' corner

A fine night in villains' corner, although not for the usual conniving and whispering-in-corners, which, frankly, we've missed this series. O'Brien did an excellent turn as a woman suddenly developing a conscience. And – did you see? – she almost mentioned The Soap! I was really looking forward to seeing how she was going to put that one into words without using the word "soap".

But tonight was Thomas's moment. "Every Tom, Dick and Harry's looking for work these days and they don't all have a hand like a Jules Verne experiment." Broken and humiliated in the opening moments (Carson: "You are trespassing on our generosity!"), Thomas spent the rest of the episode slowly building himself back up into a colossus of evil. It was beautiful to watch, culminating in the smug restraint on his face as his arch enemy Bates was marched off in handcuffs. One of the biggest failings of this series has been to capitalise on Thomas. Rob James-Collier is a fantastic actor (I would put him in the Michelle Dockery bracket – regular readers will know there is no finer accolade) and the series two plotline has not been enough of a stretch for him. Except for when he had to get his hand blown off, of course. That was genius.

Not-so-surprise romantic declaration of the night

What can we say about the Anna and Bates action? It was joy-making until the awful "Lady Mary as Cynthia Payne" moment. I know Lady Mary is versed in the ways of the world what with having "embraced" Mr Pamuk to death and all that but … I didn't buy it. And I wasn't sure we wanted to actually see Bates and Anna in bed together. You could see why everyone in TOWIE gets spray tans. Still, loved Anna's quivering bottom lip in the closing frame.

And the Joey Tribbiani award for smell-the-fart acting goes to…

A lot of competition for this coveted award in this episode. I treasured the look on Hugh Bonneville's face when he talked about having "spoiled" Lady Sybil: "The mad clothes… The nursing…" Indeed. Let a woman wear pantaloons and – lawks – attend to some sick officers and who knows what madness will descend? But the expression on the countenance of Cousin Isobel (Penelope Wilton) when Ginger Lavinia was dying was beyond priceless. Wilton wins.

What is it you're really trying to tell us here?

Matthew: "I just wish I could get rid of this damned stick." Oh for heaven's sake, you were paralysed for life two minutes ago. Have a bit of gratitude.

Ginger Lavinia: "Any bride who doesn't suck up to her husband's mother is a fool." No, any bride who comes down the stairs silently and without warning thereby risking seeing her future husband kissing the woman he not-so-secretly really loves ... That woman is a fool.

Carson on Ginger Lavinia: "I didn't want her here. But I had no objection to her being happy somewhere else." What a fantastically clever way of saying you dislike someone. I can't help feeling that Carson must have heard this one from Cousin Violet.

Next week...

Oh no! There is no next week! But stand by for the one-off festive episode. "Merry Christmas, Lady Edith! Here's your present: you get to unwrap Patrick's bandages!" That would be good, wouldn't it? (Melty-faced Patrick had better come back in that episode otherwise I swear I am going to write a letter of complaint to Fellowes. It will be quite a long letter.) This series has been an odd experience but everything has been put in place for a return to series one form – with a sumptuous 1920s backdrop.

Will Matthew hang on to the rabbit/dachshund/mouse thingy only for it to resurface under his pillow years later? Will Sir Richard be able to resist doing a front page splash on the truth about Mr Pamuk? ("Poor Kemal!") Will O'Brien ever get to come clean about The Soap? We're giving you one more chance, Downton.

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  • OneHandWavingFree

    6 November 2011 10:40PM

    Bates gets acquitted in the crimbo special.

    The Bates/Anna marriage "I now pronounce you husband and wife"? Did Fellowes just lift the text from the current ceremony? Wasn't it "man and wife" in those days?

  • Cariad007

    6 November 2011 10:42PM

    Oh how I cringed when they showed Bates and Anna in bed together - "you've had your way with me now Mrs Bates."

    Anyone else want to slap Matthew across the back of the head in that last scene? How can the man be so bloody noble??

  • jackman

    6 November 2011 10:42PM

    I'm going to miss it so much - as barmy as it was.

    Allen Leech (Branson) has made a habit of shacking up with women above his station in his career: See his turns as Agrippa in Rome and Francis Dereham in The Tudors.

    Did Isis make it? I don't remember seeing her.

  • IdiotJoyShow

    6 November 2011 10:44PM

    Police powers were clearly broader in 1919 compared to today. "Yes that's correct officer, the chauffeur is attempting to marry my daughter. He must be arrested."

    Lavinia = Star Trek red shirt.

    I'm no expert in these matters, but what size should Ethel's baby be now? Toddler size? This timeline is more confusing than The Terminator. I just don't know anymore.

  • Queenie1

    6 November 2011 10:46PM

    Are Mr Q and I the only watchers who love Ginger Lavinia?
    Was anyone else thinking of "who ate the salmon mousse" in Meaning of Life during that 'dropping like flies' dinner?
    And is there ANYONE who wanted to see Mr & Mrs B's wedding night up close and personal? *shudder*

  • LouisGrecian2000

    6 November 2011 10:46PM

    Tonight it was cheesy with extra cheese, but I am sorry to see it end. The interaciton between Jane the Healthy Maid & his Lordship was excruciating, as was Matthew's vampire look in the final scenes.Cousin Violet was brilliant though, and Branson & Sybil's lurve, while ridiculous, was very sweet. I'm worn out with the Mary & Matthew rolercoaster now, and dittor for Bates & Anna. I hope series 3 is greatly improved but I'll watch it anyway. Sunday nights won't be the same now.

  • waifandstray

    6 November 2011 10:50PM

    In between laughing and wanting to throw up this was a brilliant finale!

    Violet, as ever, stole the show with her one liners. Sadly, she wasn't given her commentary over the debacle later in the show.

    Best moment? Matthew contemplatively putting on a gramaphone song when Lady Mary elegantly descends the staircase. She notes she doesn't know the song to which Matthew's response is 'I think it was in a show that flopped... "Zip Goes A Million" or something like that...'.

    Prescient or what?!

  • hellcat

    6 November 2011 10:51PM

    so am i the only one who infinitely prefers Pissy Vampire Matthew to Milquetoast Happy Matthew? I can actually muster some interest in the tingling of this Matthew.

    Line of the night:
    Richard: I hear you don't have a chauffeur. Maybe I could drive.
    Mary: Preferably over the chauffeur.

    HA! Mary, you'll bury us all. except for Cousin Violet.

  • Criticulated

    6 November 2011 10:52PM

    This series hasn't left me very convinced by Dr Clarkson's skills at diagnosis.

    1) Misinterprets 'bruising' for 'severed spinal cord resulting in permanent lower body paralysis and loss of sexual function'.

    2) Cheerfully predicts Spanish 'Flu as being "nothing to worry about" and just to "give it a few days" and all will be well (never mind that it was doing the rounds in the previous episode and everyone was very concerned).

    Then once Matthew is walking again, the Countess is haemorrhaging and Lavinia has died a sweaty death he happens to mention that he always had doubts about the spine thing, and that Spanish 'Flu is notoriously changeable and implies that he knew all this all along!

  • GoesPlacidly

    6 November 2011 10:53PM

    I think Dan Stevens deserves some sort of award for making the most inconsistent character manage to seem semi-normal and not at all like a raving psychopath. I mean, two weeks ago he was a bitter cripple, last week he was heroically walking again and in this episode he managed to seem genuinely in love with first Lavinia, then Mary, then Lavinia again, over the course of 24 hours. And that's not even including the first series' hates Downton/loves Downton, hates Lady Mary/loves Lady Mary/resents Lady Mary flip-flops. God knows how cousin Matthew ever decides what to eat at an informal buffet dinner!

    Penelope Wilton's face during Ginger Lavinia's death scene caused hysterics on my sofa... What expression was she even aiming for?

  • Pollyana

    6 November 2011 10:56PM

    If Jane-the-healthy-maid-with-war dead-husband _yeah right_ can work as a maid at Downton with a child why can't Edith work there? There's plenty of people who could look after the child who should be about 3-4 years old by now? Edith could do something useful?

    What happened to the kids of servants any how??

  • orangescarves

    6 November 2011 10:57PM

    You're right about Rob James-Collier. Thomas went from practically licking Carson's shoes to get his job back to smug bastard whose plan came together and he played it very well.

    MAYBE YOU CAN GIVE HIM A PROPER STORYLINE NEXT SERIES LORD FELLOWES.

    I'm in a bit of a rage over the episode. Not so far as to entertain thoughts of donning a V for Vendetta mask and getting the bombs ready for the next time the House of Lords are in session, but y'know.

    Poor Edith. Was she even in this episode?

  • burnbabyburn84

    6 November 2011 11:01PM

    Oh, Mr Fellowes. We finally get Little Matthew working alright, Ginger Lavinia even suggests that she'll step aside so there can be more sexy time for Mary and Matthew, and then what? You kill Ginger Lavinia, leaving us all feeling incredibly guilty for calling her Ginger Lavinia, and Matthew as some kind of one-man, three-day play about how to become a whining pansy.

    Matthew - man up, the Emo-effect is tedious in the extreme. You made Sir Richard look decent in that last scene. Yeah. I know.

    Ginger Lavinia - sad times. Going back to London, or possibly eloping with Edith, would have been better for you, and less extreme than the most changeable flu of all time.

    Robert - your scenes with Jane were painful in the extreme. And while Awesome Cora was ill? Carson would not approve, and neither do I, you cad.

  • Cariad007

    6 November 2011 11:03PM

    Poor Edith, still the only daughter with no love interest. But perhaps things will get better for her in series three. Will she embrace bohemian ways and discover Sapphic passions?

  • Pollyana

    6 November 2011 11:04PM

    I see Grace Dent is on Have I got a bit more news for you and managed to mention Downton Abbey which Ian Hislop watches too - bless-

  • orangescarves

    6 November 2011 11:04PM

    I have to admit, the prospect of Bates having a thoroughly miserable time whilst on trial for murder is delicious.

    Bloody Bates.

  • GoesPlacidly

    6 November 2011 11:04PM

    Response to hellcat, 6 November 2011 10:51PM

    so am i the only one who infinitely prefers Pissy Vampire Matthew to Milquetoast Happy Matthew?

    No, you're definitely not the only one. "An impotent cripple smelling of sick" shouldn't be any character's most swoonsome line, and yet somehow...

  • avenir

    6 November 2011 11:08PM

    It's ok to snog the maid, even if you feel guilty, but it isn't ok the snog the chauffeur. I'm learning such a lot about etiquette.

  • Queenie1

    6 November 2011 11:10PM

    Oh and on the subject of Ginger Lavinia. why was she buried at Downton and not Among Her Own People? And where were her Own People at the funeral? I know daddy has a weak chest but surely...

  • 22bySeven

    6 November 2011 11:11PM

    Overall, I really enjoyed his episode - definitely helped by the fact that it just covered a few days rather than the usual single episode stretcedh over 2 or 3 months (or longer - I assume men at the front didn't really get home every couple of months a la Captain Crawley this series).

    Episode 8 Laugh out loud moment :
    Anna - "Can you keep a secret?"
    Lady Mary - <silence>
    Anna - "Oh. Of course you can".

    Not often Anna gets to trump the Dowager Countess in the comedy moments, but it was nice of the script writers to let her do it this once; the least they could do after she's had to wear servants clothes for 2 series, next to the Crawley sisters glammed up effort!.

    Loved the dance scene. After being firmly in the M&M camp, I had started to sway in my loyalty... and over the last couple of episodes had actually decided Matthew was becoming a bit wet and Richard was probably better suited to Mary after all. Matthew announcing their marriage last episode by saying Lavinia had been looking after him was a bit unfair given Mary's efforts before Sir Richard brought Lavinia back. Still, he got back on track whilst taking Lady Mary for a whirl (even if the kiss was a bit crap. Come on, after all the pair of you have been through, surely a bit of passion wouldn't have gone amiss?!).

    ... but then that whole bloody noble speech at the graveside. Aaaghh! Guess I'll have to wait until Series 3 for daschund/mousey thing to do it's stuff and bring them together. Maybe Sir Richard will be caught up in a telegram-tapping scandal enabling Mary to leave him (...or to jump to his defence when an interloper tries to hit him with a custartd pie; in the world of the Downton script, anything is possible ...)

    And nice to see reference to Sybil's suffragette pantaloons again. There's been a sad lack of pantaloon flaunting this series.

  • pinkporridge

    6 November 2011 11:15PM

    Definately innuendo bingo time when the gramophone went on. It didnt hold my interest like the whole series really, noise in the background for most of the time.

  • GoesPlacidly

    6 November 2011 11:15PM

    Response to Queenie1, 6 November 2011 11:10PM

    I assumed her weak-chested father was the man standing next to Matthew; presumably he didn't get a line because the budget/running time wouldn't stretch to it?

    And would we expect the disgraced-politician uncle to turn up to anything? Maybe Julian Fellowes just forgot about him, otherwise surely a fist-fight between him and the newspaper man would have been on the cards...

  • Heasgarnich

    6 November 2011 11:20PM

    Right. Well.

    1. Poor Ginger Lavinia. Not only was she Ginger and called Lavinia, but she died after what has to be the most remarkably rapid onset of influenza. Clearly no one had some Lemsip or even chicken soup handy. The bastards.

    2. Mr & Mrs Bates in bed. Thank the small merciful petal-like fingers of Jesus that we were spared the sight of them in the throes of passion. Thank God indeed.

    3. Rather pissed that Cora made it. I was hoping that we would be spared another series of her "Meaningful Yet Wistful Looks". Shame to see that dress with the fishing net survived yet another outing. Note to wardrobe: you're entering the 1920s. Prepare to dazzle.

    4. Even more pissed off that Mary didn't die, the ungrateful shallow ice maiden that she is. If there's one person on this show who deserves to be struck down with something resembling (but not quite) the bubonic plague (or even a dose of explosive fatal shits), it's her.

    5. As I've said elsewhere - I'm counting down until Mr Carson and Thomas end up making with the beast with two backs. Who's with me?!

  • Criticulated

    6 November 2011 11:23PM

    Speaking of Sybil and the suffragettes: why haven't we heard anything whatsoever from her about the Qualification of Women Act 1918?

    Perhaps her diary has been full - she could only manage to pop by her dearly beloved's garage every six months after all.

    Mind you, given that we discovered she was 21 in 1919, that makes her 1913 campaign to win the vote seem a little premature.

  • OneHandWavingFree

    6 November 2011 11:26PM

    Why does Ethel's baby have a bigger head than she has - and yet is still in nappies as he must surely be approaching school age, and how does she feel about Oliver Reed being her son's grandfather?

  • 22bySeven

    6 November 2011 11:33PM

    Response to Pollyana, 6 November 2011 11:04PM

    It made me laugh when I saw have I Got News For You - who'd have thought Ian Hislop would be a DA fan? Next thing you know, Jeremy Paxman will be announcing it's his secret sunday night passion on Newsnight and Jeremy Clarkson will be letting his love of it it slip out on Top Gear.

  • sb69

    6 November 2011 11:39PM

    Definately innuendo bingo time when the gramophone went on.


    Totally. That was priceless.

    What's this about O'Brien and the soap? I don't remember a soap incident.

  • oldmuskrat

    6 November 2011 11:50PM

    Thank goodness that's over. Was right about Lavinia as the flu victim, then. Yes, very strange almost goggling look from Penelope Wilton during L's deathbed scene, as if she was witnessing an attack of the zombies or something? Lavinia didn't even turn blue at the end, either...(all very sanitised...)
    Funny erotic brinkmanship being played out with the Earl and that housemaid with the piercing eyes. The mere mention of Ripon Grammar seemed to work like an aphrodisiac etc...I guess he's must be very middle class beneath all that aristo tweed...does Violet know? Of course he gave into Branson and Sibyl, no surprises there.
    Yes, could have done without a glimpse of Bates' and Anna's intimate wedding night, ahem. Did Lady Mary put them up in the Pamuk Suite I wonder? Tsk, Downton is becoming like a hippy commune...soon they'll be hosting pop concerts on the croquet lawn etc. Poor Edith didn't have much to do, not even a 'flu sniffle...
    Lots of bon mots for Violet, they came thick and fast in this episode...Did she make a joke about the Hapsburgs? (Must watch again...) And O'Brien nearly owning up to the soap incident! Terrible rubbish really...Best bit was Daisy as WW I's most ungracious/reluctant/stroppy war widow finally shedding a tear over William's grave...

  • w0tcher1

    6 November 2011 11:57PM

    Phew Carson made it! Was seriously worried Thomas had spiked his hot milk! I'd do an inventory of the silver though! Poor Lavinia was rather touching. Hurrah for Sybil + Branson, Lord Goody Two Shoes is such a hypocritical arse even if he did stop short of seducing Jane. Good for Ethel standing up to that bully.
    Overall a pretty good finale so 9 out of 10!

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    VivGroskop

    7 November 2011 12:02AM

    "What's this about O'Brien and the soap?" Oh bless you, @sb69!

    Who wants to explain? Form an orderly queue, please.

    And while we're at it, what's with this Turkish gentleman?

  • BrerRabbit2

    7 November 2011 12:10AM

    Response to hellcat, 6 November 2011 10:51PM

    @hellcat, I couldn't agree more. Especially about Cousin Violet. I expect to see, if I cared enough, aye there's the rub, Dame Maggie all togged out and listening to the wireless and laughing at ITMA and Mrs Dale's Diary. Maybe that's for the Christmas Special.

  • BrerRabbit2

    7 November 2011 12:14AM

    How does Cousin Violet know what Middle Class is? How often does she even meet any middle class person? Her dialogue always sounds as if Alan Bennett wrote it. [Uncredited and double the fee?]

    I'm beginning to notice that Downstairs at Downton they are far more U than the mob Upstairs.

    Only, I'm a bit confused, while I don't give a rat's about who poisoned hideous Vera, didn't Thomas poison Mr Pamuk? He did hand Mr Pamuk a class of something just before Mr Pamuk pounced on Mary in the ante-room.

    Lavinia's finest hour? It seemed longer than my first term at school. And her demise was the worst kept secret in television deaths since Eddie Britt's exit from Desperate Housewives, which is what Downton is turning into now: Desperate Aristocrats meet Blackadder. Series Three? I hope those who like that sort of thing enjoy it, but I bit adieu to Downton last night, as did, I suspect, a vast number of other people. It is hard to get involved in story lines, if you can call them that, when the people involved are so unsympathetic. Downton has no style. It's really just Coronation Street in grander settings and sometimes posher voices.

  • 22bySeven

    7 November 2011 12:19AM

    Response to VivGroskop, 7 November 2011 12:02AM

    Am I first in the queue?

    @sb69 ... a bar of soap is the reason Matthew is still heir of Downton (assuming the non-reappearance of heavily bandaged Canadians). An absence of soap would have meant his return to life as a Mancunion solicitor.

    I can only assume you must have nipped to the kitchen to put the kettle on during one of the many ad breaks, and not made it back in time to see The Soap incident in Series 1. It's easily done. Buy the series on DVD and speed through until you find Cora in the bath.

  • waifandstray

    7 November 2011 12:20AM

    Response to VivGroskop, 7 November 2011 12:02AM

    Viv

    Soap is an ingredient of questionable dramas. As you well know!

    Turkish men are usually without moustaches and conveniently expire off screen and are therefore 'poor Mr' something or other. They may or may not be wicked but certainly cause ruffles in the smooth running of the aristocratic order of things.

    Oh... and in case no-one has done it yet... Thanks for your brilliant blogs!

    x

  • Glazza

    7 November 2011 12:43AM

    So much for Michele Dockery's longing for the manners of yesteryears. Within hours of their partners being confined to their sickbeds, the current and future Earl of Grantham were off snogging other women.

    Nice trick in the trailer, showing the aged hand flopping down suggesting it was Cora who copped it. It was Cora's hand but it occurred after she recovered - I don't know why she flopped it then!

  • Lalwende

    7 November 2011 12:56AM

    I've officially had enough of the Matthew/Mary thing. But at least Bates decided to do the decent thing and marry Anna - I was anticipating him being all stubborn again.

    What happened to the kids of servants any how??

    Well I know about this one...My mum sat and played in the kitchen while my grandma cooked and cleaned for her boss, and my dad was luckier - he got to sit in the 'parlour' and be spoilt and fed cream cakes by the hotel owner my nan did housework for.

  • nocoalinmybathnow

    7 November 2011 1:00AM

    Matthew morphed into John Alderton of 'Please Sir' tonight. Uncanny resemblance.

    I feel sorry for Lady Sybil and her uppity chauffeur. Four years unrequited longing and now a whole season's break before any whiff of a wedding cake. Time-lines may not matter in Downtown but it'll be awkward if the real life couple fall with child before they film their virtuous nuptials. Reverse bustles may not pass for 20s fashion but I'm sure the Good Lord will think of something.

    It's all too much. Too much. Still, Michelle Dockery is of Irish stock. If Lord Fellowes doesn't raise his fecking game in the next series I'll be forced to watch that too for the sake of her Lady Mary.

  • locolomo

    7 November 2011 1:08AM

    Mixed as ever, but I have liked the little subplot with Daisy as the reluctant war widow. And now she's got to play the part of grieving daughter-in-law too, bless her.

  • idawson

    7 November 2011 4:35AM

    I would say this was one of the better episodes of the series. But it goes without saying that this series has been a bit all over the shop.

    However, in hindsight we must acknowledge that the signs were there in series one for plotlines that bordered on the farcical.

    Hopefully series 3 will be a little tighter and more polished than this middle series.

  • ClaireAlways

    7 November 2011 4:55AM

    Hey, no hating on Bates and Anna! Anna is adorable, one of the best characters on Downton, and Bates is such a sweet man, handsome in his own way. (At least, I'd do him. But then, I'd also do Lord Grantham. And Matthew. And Thomas. In no particular order, or perhaps all at once is fine too.)

  • ClaireAlways

    7 November 2011 5:03AM

    Response to Heasgarnich, 6 November 2011 11:20PM

    2. Mr & Mrs Bates in bed. Thank the small merciful petal-like fingers of Jesus that we were spared the sight of them in the throes of passion. Thank God indeed.

    But... but... I was actually kind of turned on by his chubby pasty naked arm and shoulder....

  • Jan86

    7 November 2011 6:23AM

    Oi! There's nothing wrong with being pale! Natural beats a spray-tan anyday.

    Anyway.

    Well well. No surprises there, but then I er... did go and read all the spoilers beforehand, so I'm not in a great position to judge.

    I think this was Violet's hour. Her cholera story was terrific, and the scheming to hitch Branson onto a noble family made me laugh out loud; maybe she'll get Shrimpy involved.

    Otherwise, I'm a bit in love with O'Brien; she's such a great character. And I too liked Lavinia; she was far too good for Matthew, who I've always thought was a bit of a snide twat, but whose "developments" were really taking the piss this time. Robert and the maid? Get off! Ethel? I still don't care. I second (or third/fourth/fifth) the request re Thomas, and it'd be good to find out if he really did poison Mr Pamuk, but I don't suppose we will now. Never mind.

    What fun. Thanks for the laughs, Viv, and everyone else who has commented over the past few weeks, this has been a real pleasure.

  • hellcat

    7 November 2011 8:05AM

    Response to IdiotJoyShow, 6 November 2011 10:44PM

    Lavinia = Star Trek red shirt.

    HA! Poor Ginger Expendable Lavinia. i predicted, along with My Fellow Commenters, that the poor dear would snuff it this episode. but then she actually broke up with Matthew. "Unexpectedly classy, show", i thought. but no. she had to
    a) suffer from a bizarre relapse of this "savage, unpredictable disease" (translation: Dr. Carlson is a really shit doctor)
    b) release Matthew (before witnesses!) in a manner guaranteed to twist the knife in the wound
    c) and then die young, having lived not-so-fast and leaving a not-so-pretty corpse.


    all so that
    1) there's no way she can actually come back and marry Matthew (although, with this show, who knows)
    2) Matthew could mope in churchyards and say to mary "Our Love Can Never Be."

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