How important can you be? You’re just the founder

Editor’s note: Serial entrepreneur Steve Blank is the author of Four Steps to the Epiphany. This column originally appeared on his blog.)

At times, VC’s forget who their business is built on…

Last week in a car showroom (of all places) I ran into a VC who had sat on the board of my last company. We hadn’t seen each other in ten years. As we chatted and made small talk, it quickly became clear that he had no memory of a phone conversation my partner and I have never forgotten.

Then

It was the Internet bubble – and after almost three years, our startup had found a business model. We were scaling revenue and headcount fast. Our second round of funding was from a firm and VC whose names were household words. This partner lived up to his reputation and helped us hire an experienced, world-class CEO from a large consulting company that we thought would be the guy to take our company to a billion dollars (think Internet-bubble Kool-aid.)

The legendary VC was too busy to sit on our board, so we got another younger partner in his firm with seemingly the right pedigree – engineering degree, MBA, lots of boards, etc. As we would find out the hard way, though, he had zero experience as an entrepreneur.

Now that the big name CEO had tentatively accepted our job offer, we were having a board meeting via conference call to approve his compensation package. My co-founder and I gulped as we went through each part of the package. The equity we were offering would make him an equal founder. And his salary, while a huge cut for him, was a lot more than the starvation budget we had put ourselves on.

However, the new CEO was hungry to join a hot Internet startup, work with this legendary VC and not miss the bubble. We were just as hungry to hire him. We thought he’d be worth it – a point the young VC on our board kept reminding us of.

When the call was almost over, my partner and I mentioned “We want to remind you guys that we’ve been working at founders pay for almost three years. We’d like to adjust our salaries to reflect the new pay scale.”  We had hoped for parity with the new CEO, but any offer of some kind of raise would have made us feel good. Instead, what we got from the VC, was “Who the hell do you think you guys are. You’re just the founders.”

Then he proceeded to give us a lecture on why we should consider ourselves lucky to get this new guy. He and his firm were the ones that were going to do the heavy lifting and we should be happy that we were going to make our money on the stock, etc.

We never did get a raise. Luckily the company did go public, but I’ve never forgot the conversation.

There were a couple important takeaways I learned from this: Having a VC who has been an entrepreneur is a plus, but it’s attitude that matters. And if you’re a founder, ask for a pay-parity agreement with a new CEO upfront and in writing.

Now

For the last 12 years as friends and then students have asked me about how to approach this big name venture firm, I’ve managed to steer them to other venture firms in the valley – by suggesting that there were firms who would treat them like they mattered. I’ve averaged about 6 referrals a year.

I figure when I get to 100 I’m even.

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About the Author, Steve Blank

Steve Blank is a retired serial entrepreneur and has been a founder or participant in eight Silicon Valley startups since 1978. After he retired, he wrote a book about building early stage companies: Four Steps to the Epiphany. He's moved from being an entrepreneur to teaching entrepreneurship to both undergraduate and graduate students at U.C. Berkeley, Stanford University and the Columbia University/Berkeley Joint Executive MBA program. The “Customer Development” model that he developed in his book is one of the core themes for these classes. In 2009 he was awarded the Stanford University Undergraduate Teaching Award in the department of Management Science and Engineering.

  • guest
    I'm just curious as to why a founder -- just for being a founder -- should get pay parity with a later-stage CEO? It seems that as a venture-backed company grows, the founder(s) need to maturely fit into some specific value-added role, whether as CEO, CTO, CMO, CFO, Sales Director, lead programmer, cook or bottlewasher -- and get paid for their role at the time, not because they were once "a founder." Too many companies get saddled by founders who are not the 1-2% who actually continue scaling as CEOs of the business, but want to be accorded benefits as if they were, while really serving as curmudgeonly distractions to the management team and board.

    The best founders need to continually be brutal in their self-appraising honesty about what they're able to deliver as companies mature, and not fall prey to the destructive sense of entitlement that many feel because they helped birth a company. Their equity stake is their reward for starting a company -- anything else needs to be based on value at the time, not value for past contributions.

    This is not to excuse VCs who put junior guys on boards or needlessly "hire-up" overpaid, chrome plated CVs as executives without thinking about the overall personnel ecosystem at a given company. Nor is it to excuse VCs who are not paying proper wages to founders given the company's ability tod do so. Quite the contrary. VCs need to be as scrupulously fair with paying founders who act in company roles as founders are scrupulously honest about their present-day value-add at a company.

    Sadly, too often, neither get it right. But this article is hopelessly canted toward the founder-centric view -- the CEO who came in appears to have gotten the company to the promised land despite all the challenges inherent in that. And still we here a founder carping about not getting CEO pay when they clearly were no longer CEO at the time . . .
  • guest
    Really? You signed on for the VC track and got exactly what you asked for.. tons of cash, hot shot advisors and a CEO who would get you to IPO. You retired the day before the IPO! Sour grapes much.
  • Lol! that made me laugh a lot. I have had a day of that kind of attitude, I'll be thinking of this story the next time a nobody who happens to work for a big company says "why did you self fund it?, why didn't you get investors from the beginning?"
  • Dirk
    Nice story, Steve.
    I feel that a relationship between an entrepeneur and a VC should be symbiotic. If I wanted someone around who feels that he/she has some kind of authority over you I'd keep my job!
  • Adam Gutterman
    Steve,

    You're a joy to read. Thanks for the inspiring and often comically tragic anecdotes. Cheers.

    Adam
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