I can supply you links regarding Churchill stating he wished to use air dropped gas attacks to terrorize the rebel Kurds and villages in Mesopotamia when he was Colonial Secretary after WW1. Research my points below. Olbermann is monitoring Obama to see that he prosecutes someone for the tortures by the CIA, yet he himself makes excuses for Churchill who was eager in using terror on civilians in Germany in WW2, and in the Middle East after WW1.
I saw the Olbermann's respone and most of his points were good.
If you watch both of them you'll see that Olbermann interjects his opinions in some of his answers and O'reilly doesn't tell the whole truth just parts to prove his points.
I suggest watching the O'reilly and Olbermann vids.
in this case O Reilly was right. Olbermann made good points but if you are world war 2 expert you will know he's distorting the truth. I normally love Keith but twisting historical facts is wrong - go through my points below and check the facts for yourself. It's ludicrous Keith would defend Chuchills personal suggestion to drop poison gas on Germans asnot torture- as if such gas was laughing gas!? Also the Dresden bombing point by Keith was in 1945-at war's end- Britain was bombing for years.
Here's my problem with O'reilly he'll take an excerpt from a long speech and not show the whole thing and it's whole meaning. Distorting the facts. He made good points.
The air raid on dresden was because of it's industrial power.
Then he talks about the time after torture that has nothing to do wiht Obama's point of Churchill didn't support torture.
Don't reply to me directly, watch olbermann vid again.
-on Dresden. I know my stuff- I suggest you don't take my word for it. If you were a WW2 war buff like me you'd know these little details- not secrets- that are easily available for you to research. I'll send you links if you like, but you can easily find these points regarding Churchill by himself asking his commanders about quote 'drenching' parts of Germany with WMDs [not lethal in design, but potentially lethal]. The Dresden bombing was purely designed to annihilate people.
I hate o'reilly normally.... but historical facts are facts. I just saw Olbermann's reply to O' Reilly and I was sickened at how Keith tried to manipulate facts. I'll go through facts about Churchill regarding how Obama got bad advice from someone in using Chirchill as 'noble and in defiance of torture'.
1.Olbermann assumes captured nazi agents weren't tortured. In fact they were threatened with execution commonly if they didn't give info. And German agents were executed. Allied agents were tortured, executed and sometimes sent to concentration camps. WW2 was a war to the death Keith, the Brits counter-intelligence worked outside of the law especially to protect their own agents from double agents in their midst.
2.Keith said Chuchill was noble because he was questioning the destruction of Dresden, Germany and massive civilian casualties. Errr, Keith that was happening at the end of the war 1945.... the Brits were bombing German cities from 1940 with Churchill's blessing!!!!
3.Keith makes up excuses that the reference Churchill used about using poison gas on German civilians 'wasn't the lethal kind'..... Keith- don't be a sap -> it's torture bombing.
4.Keith stated Churchill only asked about poison gas bombing of German industrial areas in 1944. Wrong Keith - first people are in those industrial areas and many of then european slave labourers. Secondly, Churchill demanded poison gas be used in 1940-> in retaliation for the horrific German air bombing of the British city of Coventry. He was ONLY talked out of it by his own airforce commanders.
Research my points below.
Olbermann is monitoring Obama to see that he prosecutes someone for the tortures by the CIA, yet he himself makes excuses for Churchill who was eager in using terror on civilians in Germany in WW2, and in the Middle East after WW1.
If you watch both of them you'll see that Olbermann interjects his opinions in some of his answers and O'reilly doesn't tell the whole truth just parts to prove his points.
I suggest watching the O'reilly and Olbermann vids.
It's ludicrous Keith would defend Chuchills personal suggestion to drop poison gas on Germans asnot torture- as if such gas was laughing gas!? Also the Dresden bombing point by Keith was in 1945-at war's end- Britain was bombing for years.
The air raid on dresden was because of it's industrial power.
Then he talks about the time after torture that has nothing to do wiht Obama's point of Churchill didn't support torture.
Don't reply to me directly, watch olbermann vid again.
I know my stuff- I suggest you don't take my word for it.
If you were a WW2 war buff like me you'd know these little details- not secrets- that are easily available for you to research.
I'll send you links if you like, but you can easily find these points regarding Churchill by himself asking his commanders about quote 'drenching' parts of Germany with WMDs [not lethal in design, but potentially lethal].
The Dresden bombing was purely designed to annihilate people.
but historical facts are facts.
I just saw Olbermann's reply to O' Reilly and I was sickened at how Keith tried to manipulate facts.
I'll go through facts about Churchill regarding how Obama got bad advice from someone in using Chirchill as 'noble and in defiance of torture'.
In fact they were threatened with execution commonly if they didn't give info. And German agents were executed. Allied agents were tortured, executed and sometimes sent to concentration camps.
WW2 was a war to the death Keith, the Brits counter-intelligence worked outside of the law especially to protect their own agents from double agents in their midst.
3.Keith makes up excuses that the reference Churchill used about using poison gas on German civilians 'wasn't the lethal kind'..... Keith- don't be a sap -> it's torture bombing.
Secondly, Churchill demanded poison gas be used in 1940-> in retaliation for the horrific German air bombing of the British city of Coventry. He was ONLY talked out of it by his own airforce commanders.